XPost: alt.home.repair, uk.d-i-y   
   From: CFKinsey@military.org.jp   
      
   On Wed, 08 May 2019 22:24:15 +0100, Rod Speed  wrote:   
      
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   > "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   > news:op.z1hmavnbwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >> On Tue, 07 May 2019 23:30:04 +0100, Rod Speed    
   >> wrote:   
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   >>>   
   >>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:op.z1funfnkwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>> On Tue, 07 May 2019 02:49:54 +0100, Rod Speed    
   >>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:op.z1d7h3x1wdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>> On Mon, 06 May 2019 20:44:56 +0100, Rod Speed   
   >>>>>>    
   >>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> news:op.z1dt8mopwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>> On Mon, 06 May 2019 20:00:11 +0100, Rod Speed   
   >>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> If they keep stock of whatever they have ever been asked for,   
   >>>>>>>>> that will obviously cost more than only keeping the most popular   
   >>>>>>>>> tires in stock and ordering in the unusual ones as required. So   
   >>>>>>>>> they   
   >>>>>>>>> will obviously be able to flog me the tires I use cheaper.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Or add the price onto the unusual ones only.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Not going to work when they never sell another of those.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Then they shouldn't buy another.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> They need at least 4 of anything they might   
   >>>>> sell because plenty change all 4 or 5 at once.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> They don't all wear out at once.   
   >>>   
   >>> They do if you rotate them. And plenty change them   
   >>> all at once even when they don't rotate them.   
   >>   
   >> What the fuck is the point in rotating them?   
   >   
   > They wear out at the same time.   
      
   So a bigger bill at once, the hassle of moving them, and you're driving around   
   with all four with low tread.   
      
   >> And if only one is worn out,   
   >   
   > That only happens if the alignment is fucked.   
      
   No, the one in the middle of the road experiences a different surface to the   
   one at the edge.  Or one might have been damaged by a puncture.   
      
   >> why replace the good three?   
   >   
   >>>> I change one at a time.   
   >>>   
   >>> So do I but most don't, so the tire place has cover what most do.   
   >>   
   >> I've never heard of anyone doing that.   
   >   
   > Then you need to get out more, as always.   
      
   I don't know many OCD folk.   
      
   >> A few weirdos replace two at once because they think it's safer to have   
   >> identical tyres opposite each other.   
   >   
   > They're right with some shit designs of cars.   
      
   I've never even noticed a car with all bald tyres behave differently to one   
   with all new tyres.  Maybe I'm just better at compensating.   
      
   > And it isnt just a few.   
   >   
   > I've just got 4 wheels and tires FROM FACEBOOK for just $10   
   > because I didn't have a spare for my trailer which I got very   
   > cheaply FROM FACEBOOK a couple of years ago now.   
      
   Gumtree had a free trailer here the other day.   
      
   > 3 of them are well worn, all about the same level of wear   
   > so they must have been rotated. One is almost full tread   
   > but is flat. I'll use the worn ones as spares and only   
   > bother to get the flat fixed if the 3 ever become   
   > unusable which is very unlikely indeed.   
   >   
   >>>>>> They should tell the owner of the weird car to buy a normal one.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Great way to get the customer to come back for their future tires.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Who cares about someone who has different tyres to everyone else?   
   >>>   
   >>> Those that find it works better to always be able to give the   
   >>> customer what they show up wanting to buy so they don't   
   >>> go to some other operation which has it on the shelf.   
   >   
   >> 95% of people come in wanting a VW, Ford, etc tyre, keep those in stock.   
   >> Why bother with the Alfa Romeo owners?   
   >   
   > Because you can flog them what they want and slug them   
   > more than you can slug the other high volume car owners.   
      
   You've changed sides in this argument.  You just said you don't like garages   
   which do that, as it apparently makes your cheaper tyres cost more.  So if you   
   were right in your original opinion, those garages are losing the custom of   
   the 95%.   
      
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> One day I got them to fix my brakes - they charged me £93   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (before labour) for a calliper I could have got for £30 on   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ebay.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> So you should have checked that before you got them to do that.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> At that time the car was almost undriveable, I couldn't be   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> bothered   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> taking   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> it back home and in again.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> And you know so little about cars that you didn't know what   
   >>>>>>>>>>> needed   
   >>>>>>>>>>> doing.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Not everyone knows everything.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> But most don't know as little about cars as you do. Or dogs either.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Most people have no clue how to fix anything on a car.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another garage, Farmer's Autocare, I took the car for an MOT,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gave me a list of what needed doing.  I bought all the parts,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> handed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them to the guy, and he refused to fit them, he wanted markup   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> his   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> own   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> parts. I called them cowboys, reported them to a few trading   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bodies,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> went to Foz Sports, who did the work without question.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> We fit them ourselves.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a shit mechanic.  I've never even replaced a brake.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> I've done a lot more than that, including wheel bearings.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Lucky you.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> No luck involved.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It's a saying.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> That mate of mine has just bought a Merc C180 for   
   >>>>>>>>>>> just $1500 which had a bit of miss in the engine and   
   >>>>>>>>>>> got the non genuine part needed to fix it for peanuts.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> But after what Clare and 'Arlen' have said about high end kraut   
   >>>>>>>>>>> cars,   
   >>>>>>>>>>> it   
   >>>>>>>>>>> will be interesting to see what else ends up needing fixing over   
   >>>>>>>>>>> time.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Him and his son had previously had 3 Hyundai Grandeurs   
   >>>>>>>>>>> that also cost them peanuts and ended up with 2 good ones   
   >>>>>>>>>>> and have cost them nothing because they have sold what   
   >>>>>>>>>>> parts they didn't need themselves of the third on ebay etc.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Only German car I've had was VW,   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Same here.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> that was reliable   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Nothing like as reliable as the Getz which had no warranty claims   
   >>>>>>>>> what   
   >>>>>>>>> so ever. The Golf did, and more than one as well. Important ones   
   >>>>>>>>> too.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
      
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