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   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   news:op.z1o1tjhawdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   > On Wed, 08 May 2019 22:24:15 +0100, Rod Speed    
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   >> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >> news:op.z1hmavnbwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>> On Tue, 07 May 2019 23:30:04 +0100, Rod Speed    
   >>> wrote:   
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   >>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:op.z1funfnkwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>> On Tue, 07 May 2019 02:49:54 +0100, Rod Speed   
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   >>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:op.z1d7h3x1wdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>> On Mon, 06 May 2019 20:44:56 +0100, Rod Speed   
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   >>>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>> news:op.z1dt8mopwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 06 May 2019 20:00:11 +0100, Rod Speed   
   >>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> If they keep stock of whatever they have ever been asked for,   
   >>>>>>>>>> that will obviously cost more than only keeping the most popular   
   >>>>>>>>>> tires in stock and ordering in the unusual ones as required. So   
   >>>>>>>>>> they   
   >>>>>>>>>> will obviously be able to flog me the tires I use cheaper.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Or add the price onto the unusual ones only.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Not going to work when they never sell another of those.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Then they shouldn't buy another.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> They need at least 4 of anything they might   
   >>>>>> sell because plenty change all 4 or 5 at once.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> They don't all wear out at once.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> They do if you rotate them. And plenty change them   
   >>>> all at once even when they don't rotate them.   
   >>>   
   >>> What the fuck is the point in rotating them?   
   >>   
   >> They wear out at the same time.   
   >   
   > So a bigger bill at once,   
      
   Yes, but longer before you have to pay anything.   
      
   > the hassle of moving them,   
      
   Not if the tire place rotates them for free and plenty do.   
      
   > and you're driving around with all four with low tread.   
      
   Nope, all 4 with legal tread.   
      
   >>> And if only one is worn out,   
   >>   
   >> That only happens if the alignment is fucked.   
   >   
   > No,   
      
   Yep.   
      
   > the one in the middle of the road experiences a different surface to the   
   > one at the edge.   
      
   In reality there is fuck all difference wear wise.   
      
   > Or one might have been damaged by a puncture.   
      
   Much less often than normal replacement due to wear.   
      
   >>> why replace the good three?   
   >>   
   >>>>> I change one at a time.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So do I but most don't, so the tire place has cover what most do.   
   >>>   
   >>> I've never heard of anyone doing that.   
   >>   
   >> Then you need to get out more, as always.   
   >   
   > I don't know many OCD folk.   
      
   Nothing to do with OCD.   
      
   >>> A few weirdos replace two at once because they think it's safer to have   
   >>> identical tyres opposite each other.   
      
   >> They're right with some shit designs of cars.   
      
   > I've never even noticed a car with all bald tyres behave differently to   
   > one with all new tyres.   
      
   Yes, you actually are that incompetent.   
      
   > Maybe I'm just better at compensating.   
      
   In reality you don't have a fucking clue if you can't pick that.   
      
   >> And it isnt just a few.   
      
   >> I've just got 4 wheels and tires FROM FACEBOOK for just $10   
   >> because I didn't have a spare for my trailer which I got very   
   >> cheaply FROM FACEBOOK a couple of years ago now.   
      
   > Gumtree had a free trailer here the other day.   
      
   Far more on the local facebook buy swap sell groups.   
      
   >> 3 of them are well worn, all about the same level of wear   
   >> so they must have been rotated. One is almost full tread   
   >> but is flat. I'll use the worn ones as spares and only   
   >> bother to get the flat fixed if the 3 ever become   
   >> unusable which is very unlikely indeed.   
   >>   
   >>>>>>> They should tell the owner of the weird car to buy a normal one.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Great way to get the customer to come back for their future tires.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Who cares about someone who has different tyres to everyone else?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Those that find it works better to always be able to give the   
   >>>> customer what they show up wanting to buy so they don't   
   >>>> go to some other operation which has it on the shelf.   
   >>   
   >>> 95% of people come in wanting a VW, Ford, etc tyre, keep those in stock.   
   >>> Why bother with the Alfa Romeo owners?   
   >>   
   >> Because you can flog them what they want and slug them   
   >> more than you can slug the other high volume car owners.   
      
   > You've changed sides in this argument.   
      
   Bullshit I have.   
      
   > You just said you don't like garages which do that,   
      
   Never said that.   
      
   > as it apparently makes your cheaper tyres cost more.   
      
   Never said that either.   
      
   > So if you were right in your original opinion,   
      
   That was never my opinion.   
      
   > those garages are losing the custom of the 95%.   
      
   Wrong, as always. Most don't buy tires on price alone.   
      
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One day I got them to fix my brakes - they charged me £93   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (before labour) for a calliper I could have got for £30 on   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ebay.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you should have checked that before you got them to do   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> At that time the car was almost undriveable, I couldn't be   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> bothered   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> taking   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> it back home and in again.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> And you know so little about cars that you didn't know what   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> needed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> doing.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Not everyone knows everything.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> But most don't know as little about cars as you do. Or dogs   
   >>>>>>>>>> either.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Most people have no clue how to fix anything on a car.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another garage, Farmer's Autocare, I took the car for an   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MOT,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gave me a list of what needed doing.  I bought all the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parts,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them to the guy, and he refused to fit them, he wanted   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> markup   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parts. I called them cowboys, reported them to a few trading   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bodies,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> went to Foz Sports, who did the work without question.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We fit them ourselves.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a shit mechanic.  I've never even replaced a brake.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> I've done a lot more than that, including wheel bearings.   
      
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