XPost: alt.home.repair, uk.d-i-y, alt.sci.physics   
   From: bobnospam@gmail.com   
      
   On 6/7/2019 3:25 AM, devnull wrote:   
   > On 6/6/19 11:09 PM, Rod Speed wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> "Bob F"  wrote in message   
   >> news:qdcjrs$ini$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>> On 6/6/2019 3:57 PM, Rod Speed wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:op.z2zgydx2wdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>> On Thu, 06 Jun 2019 22:59:47 +0100, trader_4   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Thursday, June 6, 2019 at 5:45:33 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey   
   >>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Jun 2019 22:25:56 +0100, Andy Burns   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> > Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >>>>>>> >   
   >>>>>>> >> I noticed some new houses being built, all with environmental   
   >>>>>>> shit, >> like   
   >>>>>>> >> solar panels, water reclamation from gutters etc.  But why do   
   >>>>>>> they >> have   
   >>>>>>> >> only 3 or 4 panels when the roof could hold about 12?   
   >>>>>>> >   
   >>>>>>> > Very little incentive to have any at all now that the >   
   >>>>>>> feed-in/bribery   
   >>>>>>> > tariff has ended.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> That's what I would have thought, but these houses are only a   
   >>>>>>> couple of years old.  None I could understand, loads I could   
   >>>>>>> understand, but not a few on each roof.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> One factor could be that the output per panel has gone up over   
   >>>>>> time.  They were ~200W a decade ago, new ones are ~300W. But still   
   >>>>>> 3 or 4 would be only 1200W, not even enough to equal what a   
   >>>>>> typical house   
   >>>>>> uses.   And you'd think that some of the cost is fixed, ie putting in   
   >>>>>> 12 isn't going to cost 3 times what it costs to put in 4, so if it's   
   >>>>>> undersized, the economics is worse.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Agreed - you might aswell make as much use of the roof space as you   
   >>>>> can.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Problem is the cost of that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> And so what if you generate more than the house uses?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You've obviously wasted your money.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> There are houses that don't generate anything.  And once we all use   
   >>>>> electric cars, we'll need a hell of a lot more.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But it makes a lot more sense to use nukes for that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> It also seems damn stupid to build an estate of 50 houses and put   
   >>>>> 1.2kW on each roof, instead of 2.4kW on half the roofs, with a much   
   >>>>> lower installation cost.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But that approach isnt viable. No one is going to   
   >>>> pay for the cost of doing it on someone else's roof.   
   >>>   
   >>> Tell that to the companies that do exactly that.   
   >>   
   >> That’s not one house owner paying for the panels on a neighbours house.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   > The US does it with healthcare and many other things.  Taxpayers are   
   > forced to pay for the lazy welfare democrat's medical expenses.   
   >   
   > Taxpayers are also forced to pay for unwed welfare mom's 6 kids.   
   >   
   > And if the socialist democrats like Ocasio-Kotex get their way,   
   > taxpayers will really get hosed.   
   > And Repugs NEVER accept socialist medicare or social security, or drive   
   on socialist public roads, or call the socialist fire department?   
   And REPUGS never use socialist public courts to solve their   
   disagreements or to take over private property for their oil pipelines?   
      
   Why do you clowns never protest corporate socialism? It is running rampant.   
      
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