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   Rod Speed to Commander Kinsey   
   Re: Very few solar panels on new houses   
   12 Jun 19 04:38:42   
   
   XPost: alt.home.repair, uk.d-i-y, alt.sci.physics   
   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   news:op.z28ftoxvwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   > On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:45:37 +0100, Rod Speed    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >> news:op.z28duscvwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:27:31 +0100, Rod Speed    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:op.z2720ruxwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 07:50:29 +0100, Xeno    
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 11/6/19 4:27 pm, Steve Walker wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 11/06/2019 03:16, Xeno wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 11/6/19 9:47 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:04:10 +0100, Xeno   
   >>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 11/6/19 8:08 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 12:24:43 +0100, Xeno   
   >>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/6/19 6:12 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 18:11:57 +0100, Rod Speed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:op.z24ke1iqwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 16:42:45 +0100, Rod Speed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:op.z24gs5lmwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But for no reason, some of them were sliced diagonally   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> across,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> triangular slabs.  I could understand that if there was a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start of a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slope, so the slabs needed to "bend", but there wasn't.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also noticed what I think is some silly legislation -   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> front   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> door   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessible without going up steps.  Are 100% of house   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buyers   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabled   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or something?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just stupid pollys if it is legislation that says that.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's happening all over the UK, we're spending billions   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> catering for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1% of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the population.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, your pollys are the stupid. Cant even manage to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> do a brexit in 3 fucking years. God knows how you lot   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever managed an empire, most likely by not letting   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your dregs or women vote.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazing we can't leave something instantly.  It should have   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> taken   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> no   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> more than a month.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently you understand very little of the complexity   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> involved.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> It's complex to start doing something, it's damn easy to stop   
   >>>>>>>>>>> it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Just as complex in this case. You need to reinitiate all systems   
   >>>>>>>>>> that   
   >>>>>>>>>> were in place prior or, more likely, develop new systems since   
   >>>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>>> old   
   >>>>>>>>>> would likely be obsolete.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Copy what's in place or delete it.  Takes a matter of a week or   
   >>>>>>>>> two.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Why would you *copy* a system you're tossing away?   
   >>>>>>>> You can't just *delete* what's in place. You need to transition.   
   >>>>>>>> What's more, you need something to transition to.   
   >>>>>>>> What existed before the EU is no longer relevant nor is it   
   >>>>>>>> desirable.   
   >>>>>>>> A *new system* needs to be developed, tested and then the   
   >>>>>>>> *existing*   
   >>>>>>>> transitioned to the new.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You copy most of what is there, with one additional piece of   
   >>>>>>> legislation   
   >>>>>>> specifying that all refderences to EU rules, regulations,   
   >>>>>>> establishments   
   >>>>>>> and structures are now to be read as referring to a list of named UK   
   >>>>>>> institutions, but then you have the power to change it later. No   
   >>>>>>> need   
   >>>>>>> to   
   >>>>>>> change everything instantly, it can be phased over years.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Which is what I said - in a nutshell - phased in over years. The   
   >>>>>> other   
   >>>>>> aspect you have not given any thought to is the logistics of it all.   
   >>>>>> It   
   >>>>>> is a lot more involved than most people think, the legislation being   
   >>>>>> just the start of it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> But the "phased in over years" can happen after we leave the EU.  Just   
   >>>>> make all EU laws into UK laws instantly, and remove or adjust them as   
   >>>>> we   
   >>>>> wish over the coming years.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That works with legislation but there is a lot more than just   
   >>>> legislation   
   >>>> involved.   
   >>>   
   >>> Give me examples of what couldn't be done as above.   
   >>   
   >> Aircraft landing rights.   
   >> Fishing rights   
   >   
   > Why not?   
      
   Because those arent determined by UK legislation, they are   
   set by the EU, so the UK can't just copy the EU legislation with   
   a few name changes on who gets to rule in a dispute etc.   
      
   > Just make them precisely as the EU has them at the moment,   
      
   Not possible, because that doesn't give the UK   
   permission to fly to anywhere it likes in the EU.   
      
   > then we're free to change them later.   
      
   Nope.   
      
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