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   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message   
   news:op.z28l7pgmwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   > On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 20:47:17 +0100, Rod Speed    
   > wrote:   
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   >> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message   
   >> news:op.z28iojr4wdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:38:42 +0100, Rod Speed    
   >>> wrote:   
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   >>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message   
   >>>> news:op.z28ftoxvwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:45:37 +0100, Rod Speed   
   >>>>>    
   >>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:op.z28duscvwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:27:31 +0100, Rod Speed   
   >>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>> news:op.z2720ruxwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 07:50:29 +0100, Xeno   
   >>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>> On 11/6/19 4:27 pm, Steve Walker wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 11/06/2019 03:16, Xeno wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/6/19 9:47 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:04:10 +0100, Xeno   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/6/19 8:08 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 12:24:43 +0100, Xeno   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/6/19 6:12 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 18:11:57 +0100, Rod Speed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:op.z24ke1iqwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 16:42:45 +0100, Rod Speed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:op.z24gs5lmwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But for no reason, some of them were sliced diagonally   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> across,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> triangular slabs. I could understand that if there   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start of a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slope, so the slabs needed to "bend", but there   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also noticed what I think is some silly legislation -   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> front   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> door   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessible without going up steps. Are 100% of house   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buyers   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabled   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or something?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just stupid pollys if it is legislation that says that.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's happening all over the UK, we're spending billions   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> catering for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1% of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the population.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, your pollys are the stupid. Cant even manage to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do a brexit in 3 fucking years. God knows how you lot   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever managed an empire, most likely by not letting   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your dregs or women vote.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazing we can't leave something instantly. It should   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than a month.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently you understand very little of the complexity   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's complex to start doing something, it's damn easy to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as complex in this case. You need to reinitiate all   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were in place prior or, more likely, develop new systems   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> since   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> old   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would likely be obsolete.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Copy what's in place or delete it. Takes a matter of a week   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> or   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> two.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Why would you *copy* a system you're tossing away?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> You can't just *delete* what's in place. You need to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> transition.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> What's more, you need something to transition to.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> What existed before the EU is no longer relevant nor is it   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> desirable.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> A *new system* needs to be developed, tested and then the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> *existing*   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> transitioned to the new.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> You copy most of what is there, with one additional piece of   
   >>>>>>>>>>> legislation   
   >>>>>>>>>>> specifying that all refderences to EU rules, regulations,   
   >>>>>>>>>>> establishments   
   >>>>>>>>>>> and structures are now to be read as referring to a list of   
   >>>>>>>>>>> named   
   >>>>>>>>>>> UK   
   >>>>>>>>>>> institutions, but then you have the power to change it later. No   
   >>>>>>>>>>> need   
   >>>>>>>>>>> to   
   >>>>>>>>>>> change everything instantly, it can be phased over years.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Which is what I said - in a nutshell - phased in over years. The   
   >>>>>>>>>> other   
   >>>>>>>>>> aspect you have not given any thought to is the logistics of it   
   >>>>>>>>>> all.   
   >>>>>>>>>> It   
   >>>>>>>>>> is a lot more involved than most people think, the legislation   
   >>>>>>>>>> being   
   >>>>>>>>>> just the start of it.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> But the "phased in over years" can happen after we leave the EU.   
   >>>>>>>>> Just   
   >>>>>>>>> make all EU laws into UK laws instantly, and remove or adjust them   
   >>>>>>>>> as   
   >>>>>>>>> we   
   >>>>>>>>> wish over the coming years.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> That works with legislation but there is a lot more than just   
   >>>>>>>> legislation   
   >>>>>>>> involved.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Give me examples of what couldn't be done as above.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Aircraft landing rights.   
   >>>>>> Fishing rights   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Why not?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Because those arent determined by UK legislation, they are   
      
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