XPost: alt.home.repair, uk.d-i-y, alt.sci.physics   
   From: CFKinsey@military.org.jp   
      
   On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 22:55:10 +0100, Rod Speed  wrote:   
      
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   > "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   > news:op.z28ovyvgwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:53:14 +0100, Rod Speed    
   >> wrote:   
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   >>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:op.z28l9spswdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 20:42:42 +0100, Rod Speed    
   >>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:op.z28ilmacwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:44:02 +0100, Rod Speed   
   >>>>>>    
   >>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> news:op.z28fv72iwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:13:27 +0100, Rod Speed   
   >>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>> "Daniel60"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>> news:qdo3gd$ia1$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey wrote on 11/06/2019 8:09 AM:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:53:25 +0100, Daniel60   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey wrote on 10/06/2019 12:50 AM:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:01:28 +0100, Daniel60   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey wrote on 8/06/2019 4:04 AM:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:46:18 +0100, Bob F   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know this for every supplier in the world?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well if you live in the desert maybe you can actually make   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of stealing it from the taxpayer.  But in most   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> places,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solar   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panels are next to useless unless you want to charge up a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> batteries.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No farm, just a normal 3 bedroom house with 20 solar panels   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed about two years ago costing about $4,500.00.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last month, being the start of Winter, i.e. lower sunlight   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solar rebate (after any power I might have used during the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> day)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> $21.49, so, even at this low sunlight rate, I'd repay the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> costs   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 17.5 years.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> O.K., I'd have not earned interest on that $4,500 for that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> time,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then again, I'd have been getting 'free' daylight power myself   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> time!!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taking into account the greater quantity of power I   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will(/have)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> generating during Summer, that pay-back time would be reduced   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (to,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe, 10 years'ish!!).   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just saying!!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't buy something that took 10 years to break even.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ever   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> heard   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> of an ISA?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> No!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Might be a British acronym.  It's a long term savings account.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Is that something like what U.S.A'ians cal a 401K ...   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Yep.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> what we in Australia call Superannuation??   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Nope, that's compulsory. The poms call that NI, National Insurance.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You don't have to pay that.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Yes you do if you are working and are paid more than a pittance.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> And are honest.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Honesty is irrelevant with most wage slaves.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Cash in hand.   
   >>>   
   >>> Very few of the better paid get paid that way anymore.   
   >>   
   >> There are ways round things for everyone.   
   >   
   > Nope. Those with most jobs get paid by their employer and   
   > their employer tells the tax dept how much they got paid.   
      
   There are a huge number of self employed.  A lot of folk don't like having a   
   boss.   
      
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