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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news:op.z28s09rtwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 22:55:10 +0100, Rod Speed
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
>> news:op.z28ovyvgwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:53:14 +0100, Rod Speed
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
>>>> news:op.z28l9spswdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 20:42:42 +0100, Rod Speed
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:op.z28ilmacwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:44:02 +0100, Rod Speed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:op.z28fv72iwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:13:27 +0100, Rod Speed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Daniel60" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:qdo3gd$ia1$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey wrote on 11/06/2019 8:09 AM:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:53:25 +0100, Daniel60
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey wrote on 10/06/2019 12:50 AM:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:01:28 +0100, Daniel60
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey wrote on 8/06/2019 4:04 AM:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:46:18 +0100, Bob F
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know this for every supplier in the world?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well if you live in the desert maybe you can actually make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of stealing it from the taxpayer. But in most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> places,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panels are next to useless unless you want to charge up a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> batteries.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No farm, just a normal 3 bedroom house with 20 solar panels
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed about two years ago costing about $4,500.00.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last month, being the start of Winter, i.e. lower sunlight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solar rebate (after any power I might have used during the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $21.49, so, even at this low sunlight rate, I'd repay the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> costs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 17.5 years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O.K., I'd have not earned interest on that $4,500 for that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then again, I'd have been getting 'free' daylight power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taking into account the greater quantity of power I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will(/have)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generating during Summer, that pay-back time would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reduced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (to,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe, 10 years'ish!!).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just saying!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't buy something that took 10 years to break even.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of an ISA?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Might be a British acronym. It's a long term savings account.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is that something like what U.S.A'ians cal a 401K ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> what we in Australia call Superannuation??
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope, that's compulsory. The poms call that NI, National
>>>>>>>>>> Insurance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You don't have to pay that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes you do if you are working and are paid more than a pittance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And are honest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Honesty is irrelevant with most wage slaves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cash in hand.
>>>>
>>>> Very few of the better paid get paid that way anymore.
>>>
>>> There are ways round things for everyone.
>>
>> Nope. Those with most jobs get paid by their employer and
>> their employer tells the tax dept how much they got paid.
> There are a huge number of self employed.
Sure, but plenty of those can't lie about their income
because its mostly electronic and trivial to check.
> A lot of folk don't like having a boss.
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