XPost: alt.home.repair, uk.d-i-y, alt.sci.physics   
   From: CFKinsey@military.org.jp   
      
   On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:   
      
   >   
   >   
   > "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message   
   > news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:52:26 +0100, Rod Speed    
   >> wrote:   
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   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message   
   >>> news:op.z28l88bywdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 20:44:20 +0100, Rod Speed    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:op.z28imsizwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:41:18 +0100, Rod Speed   
   >>>>>>    
   >>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> news:op.z28fvcgdwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:35:47 +0100, Rod Speed   
   >>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>> "devnull" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>> news:n_PLE.43682$T52.29836@fx35.iad...   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 6/11/19 9:40 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> And if you don't have the money stored in a tax-free IRA, you'll   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> pay   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> income tax on your losses.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Dunno what an IRA is, but all ISAs are tax free AFAIK.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Hang on, losses? Surely you pay income tax on your income, not   
   >>>>>>>>>>> losses.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Yah, it's called "Republican taxpayer privilege". The bank pays   
   >>>>>>>>>> you   
   >>>>>>>>>> 2%   
   >>>>>>>>>> interest but inflation goes up 3%.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Essentially you have less buying power at the end of the year and   
   >>>>>>>>>> yet   
   >>>>>>>>>> you   
   >>>>>>>>>> still have to pay taxes on the 2% "gain".   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> The democrats have lots of slick scams to take money from working   
   >>>>>>>>>> taxpayers and give it to their lazy welfare constituents.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> And yet only half pay any income tax. Or are you saying that the   
   >>>>>>>>> Dems   
   >>>>>>>>> are   
   >>>>>>>>> so   
   >>>>>>>>> clever that they have worked out how to make just Repugs pay income   
   >>>>>>>>> tax   
   >>>>>>>>> ?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Who cares about income tax?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> In all but the USA, it's the main tax most pay in the first   
   >>>>>>> world. Only the unemployable dregs like you pay most   
   >>>>>>> of the tax they pay in the VAT and fuel and sin taxes.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It's one of only 50 taxes.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> What matters is how much you pay in each one.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> VAT is 20%! You will eventually spend all you earn,   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Plenty of the better paid don't.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Nobody accumulates money forever.   
   >>>   
   >>> Plenty with a clue accumulate it till they stop working   
   >>> and plenty accumulate it and hand it on to their kids too.   
   >>>   
   >>>> If they don't spend it their descendants will.   
   >>>   
   >>> Plenty of their descendents arent stupid enough to spend it.   
   >>   
   >> If what you were saying was true, there would be an ever increasing number   
   >> of people with huger and huger amounts of money.   
   >>   
   >>>>>> so that's 20% which is significantly similar to the income tax rate.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Not with the better paid. Only the dregs of the labour market.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If you're poor, you pay a low rate,   
   >>>   
   >>> Yes, the dregs mostly do pay just VAT and petrol and sin taxes.   
   >>>   
   >>>> if you're rich, you bend the rules and pay a low rate.   
   >>>   
   >>> Not even possible for most of the better paid wage slaves.   
   >>> Those pay a lot more than 20% income tax.   
   >>   
   >> Nope,   
   >   
   > Yep.   
   >   
   >> once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle things nicely.   
   >   
   > We werent discussing the really rich.   
      
   We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over £46,351. That's really   
   rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that much. They can afford   
   accountants to cheat.   
      
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