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   Message 7,553 of 7,706   
   Rod Speed to Commander Kinsey   
   Re: Very few solar panels on new houses   
   16 Jun 19 05:15:58   
   
   XPost: alt.home.repair, uk.d-i-y, alt.sci.physics   
   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   news:op.z3fgp1khwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   > On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:16:18 +0100, Xeno  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 14/6/19 8:57 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:12:33 +0100, Xeno    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 13/6/19 2:41 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >>>>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 03:52:50 +0100, Xeno    
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 12/6/19 4:20 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:13:27 +0100, Rod Speed   
   >>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> "Daniel60"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>> news:qdo3gd$ia1$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey wrote on 11/06/2019 8:09 AM:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:53:25 +0100, Daniel60   
   >>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey wrote on 10/06/2019 12:50 AM:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:01:28 +0100, Daniel60   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey wrote on 8/06/2019 4:04 AM:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:46:18 +0100, Bob F   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know this for every supplier in the world?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well if you live in the desert maybe you can actually make   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> real   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> money   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of stealing it from the taxpayer.  But in most   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> places,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solar   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> panels are next to useless unless you want to charge up a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> batteries.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> No farm, just a normal 3 bedroom house with 20 solar panels   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> that I   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> installed about two years ago costing about $4,500.00.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Last month, being the start of Winter, i.e. lower sunlight   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> levels, my   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Solar rebate (after any power I might have used during the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> day)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> $21.49, so, even at this low sunlight rate, I'd repay the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> panel   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> costs   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> about 17.5 years.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> O.K., I'd have not earned interest on that $4,500 for that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> time,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> but,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> then again, I'd have been getting 'free' daylight power   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> myself for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> time!!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Taking into account the greater quantity of power I   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> will(/have) be   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> generating during Summer, that pay-back time would be reduced   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> (to,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe, 10 years'ish!!).   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just saying!!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't buy something that took 10 years to break even.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Ever   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> heard   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> of an ISA?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> No!   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Might be a British acronym.  It's a long term savings account.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Is that something like what U.S.A'ians cal a 401K ...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yep.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> what we in Australia call Superannuation??   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Nope, that's compulsory. The poms call that NI, National Insurance.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You don't have to pay that.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You might not, we do, no choice.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It's about time we got rid of government altogether.  There's no   
   >>>>> freedoms left.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So you like anarchy, eh? My guess is you've never experienced it. Had   
   >>>> you ever done so, you wouldn't make such naive statements as that   
   >>>> above.   
   >>>   
   >>> Anything is better than government control.   
   >>   
   >> Naivety noted!   
   >   
   > The naivety is people believing the government does us good.   
      
   So who provided those roads you hoon around on, stupid ?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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