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From: CFKinsey@military.org.jp
On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 19:52:31 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
> Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 01:59:17 +0100, Rod Speed
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
>>> news:op.z3ch4nb5wdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>>>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:52:26 +0100, Rod Speed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:op.z28l88bywdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 20:44:20 +0100, Rod Speed
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> message news:op.z28imsizwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:41:18 +0100, Rod Speed
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:op.z28fvcgdwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:35:47 +0100, Rod Speed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "devnull" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:n_PLE.43682$T52.29836@fx35.iad...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/11/19 9:40 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And if you don't have the money stored in a tax-free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IRA, you'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> income tax on your losses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dunno what an IRA is, but all ISAs are tax free AFAIK.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hang on, losses? Surely you pay income tax on your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> income, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> losses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yah, it's called "Republican taxpayer privilege". The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bank pays
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest but inflation goes up 3%.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Essentially you have less buying power at the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the year and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still have to pay taxes on the 2% "gain".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The democrats have lots of slick scams to take money
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxpayers and give it to their lazy welfare
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And yet only half pay any income tax. Or are you saying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clever that they have worked out how to make just Repugs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay income
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who cares about income tax?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In all but the USA, it's the main tax most pay in the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>> world. Only the unemployable dregs like you pay most
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the tax they pay in the VAT and fuel and sin taxes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's one of only 50 taxes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What matters is how much you pay in each one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> VAT is 20%! You will eventually spend all you earn,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Plenty of the better paid don't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nobody accumulates money forever.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Plenty with a clue accumulate it till they stop working
>>>>>>>>> and plenty accumulate it and hand it on to their kids too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If they don't spend it their descendants will.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Plenty of their descendents arent stupid enough to spend it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If what you were saying was true, there would be an ever
>>>>>>>> increasing number
>>>>>>>> of people with huger and huger amounts of money.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> so that's 20% which is significantly similar to the income
>>>>>>>>>>>> tax rate.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not with the better paid. Only the dregs of the labour
>>>>>>>>>>> market.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you're poor, you pay a low rate,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, the dregs mostly do pay just VAT and petrol and sin taxes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if you're rich, you bend the rules and pay a low rate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not even possible for most of the better paid wage slaves.
>>>>>>>>> Those pay a lot more than 20% income tax.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle things
>>>>>>>> nicely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We werent discussing the really rich.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over £46,351. That's
>>>>>> really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that
>>>>>> much. They can afford accountants to cheat.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in the UK,
>>>>> Folkestone to be precise, earns well over £100,000 per annum.
>>>>> Others earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until
>>>>> he retired recently, was earning £150,000 for 6 months work. It
>>>>> has to be said, both those aforementioned are highly qualified in
>>>>> their respective fields.
>>>>
>>>> That's more than the prime minister gets paid.
>>>
>>> Wrong.
>>
>> Last time I checked (admittedly 10 years ago) it was £100K. I
>> remember, because at that time the rector of a local uni was getting
>> £130K which was absurd in comparison.
>>>> Nobody should be earning that much.
>>>
>>> Plenty do anyway.
>>
>> Hardly anyone in fact.
>>
>>>> The average UK wage is a fraction of that
>>>
>>> Their problem.
>>>
>>>> and we should all be paid a similar amount.
>>>
>>> That stupid approach provides no incentive to get qualified for the
>>> much better paid jobs.
>>
>> Some people like to work in comfy desk jobs where they don't have any
>> physical effort. A bank manager expends less energy than a
>> bricklayer, he should therefore get paid less.
>
> Prick.
Remind me of your desk job....
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