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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:21:33 +0100, Rod Speed
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
>> news:op.z3js2q0nwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>>> On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 23:21:05 +0100, Rod Speed
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
>>>> news:op.z3f02we1wdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 21:00:03 +0100, Rod Speed
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:op.z3fo4yjpwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:05:48 +0100, Xeno
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 15/6/19 11:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:10:35 +0100, Xeno
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 14/6/19 8:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nicely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We werent discussing the really rich.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over £46,351.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can afford accountants to cheat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> UK,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Folkestone to be precise, earns well over £100,000 per annum.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Others
>>>>>>>>>>>> earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until he
>>>>>>>>>>>> retired
>>>>>>>>>>>> recently, was earning £150,000 for 6 months work. It has to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> said,
>>>>>>>>>>>> both those aforementioned are highly qualified in their
>>>>>>>>>>>> respective
>>>>>>>>>>>> fields.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's more than the prime minister gets paid. Nobody should be
>>>>>>>>>>> earning
>>>>>>>>>>> that much. The average UK wage is a fraction of that and we
>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>> be paid a similar amount.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why? He is getting paid *what he is worth*. He put in the time
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> effort studying and gaining experience on the ground to get where
>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> and if people are willing to pay him appropriately for his work,
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>> that is up to him. I put in 12 years at uni and decades in trade
>>>>>>>>>> relevant study and qualifications but you think a labourer should
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> the same pay as I? You need to get real.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't care what job you do, it's less important than running the
>>>>>>>>> entire country.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You tell that to the people who are looking for specific skillsets.
>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>> seem to think the people are worth it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aren't those companies capable of just teaching their workers what
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do?
>>>>>>> Anybody could do the below when told how to. We should remove all
>>>>>>> education (especially when it's paid for by the taxes of people who
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> even have kids) and just have people learning on the job. Start off
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> plumber's mate, he shows you what he's doing, then you follow suit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesn't work when designing aircraft, stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or even when doing a brexit either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or with doctors either.
>>>>
>>>>> Never seen a student nurse?
>>>>
>>>> They don't learn everything from the other nurse.
>>>
>>> They could
>>
>> Nope, makes no sense at all to have 1/1 teaching with the theory.
>
> You could have 1 to 4. One nurse doing stuff to a patient, 4 watching.
That's not the THEORY.
>>> and should.
>>
>> Ditto.
>>
>>>> They do lots of theory now, and have full degrees now.
>>
>>> What a waste of time.
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>>> You learn ten times faster from practical experience.
>>
>> Like hell you do with the theory. And you need the theory so the nurse
>> knows what to do when something new happens with the patient.
>
> Seeing it in a textbook just ain't the same as the real thing.
Pity about the THEORY.
>>>>>>>> Like my mate, recently retired, who is an *inspector*. A hazardous
>>>>>>>> area, gaseous environment inspector, to be precise. This is what
>>>>>>>> happens without people like him on the job;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.simien.com/assets/simiensimien/media/images
blog/fire-on-oil-rig-blog.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, one entire oil rig, not a whole country then?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No PM runs an entire country, stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's their job.
>>>>
>>>> Pigs arse it is. The most they do is have some say on what changes to
>>>> the
>>>> law happen.
>>>
>>> Which is running the country.
>>
>> Pigs arse it is. Those running business and doing other stuff do that.
>
> If only.
Fraid so.
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