From: vallor@cultnix.org   
      
   On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 22:10:45 +0000, Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:   
      
   > Raymond Karczewski  wrote in   
   > news:abc3f360-4111-49b4-a867-4fcd975f1ea8@googlegroups.com:   
   >   
   >> The Bible is the HELL of Christian (Satanic) Conditioning, According to   
   >> a Living Christ!   
   >   
   > That doesn't even parse correctly, you stupid fuckwit.   
      
   Orthogonally-related...a pastor from the Great Awakening once preached:   
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _   
   ''   
   The Bible is not greater than conscience and reason.  They are directly   
   from God, God's voice heard plainly in the heart, as even on Horeb, or   
   Sinai or the mount of transfiguration.  Nothing can be superior to these   
   instructors.  The Bible may agree with reason, utter the same sentiments   
   with conscience; and so far it will authority.  It can never contradict   
   these counselors, and yet claim obedience.  What God has made cannot be   
   unmade by any power short of his own; so nothing arbitrary or capricious   
   can ever become binding on reason and conscience, let it be taught on   
   what external authority it may.  One chief merit of Christianity consists   
   in restoring natural morality and natural religion to their original and   
   proper place, in permitting conscience, reason and the religious   
   sentiment to speak in their native, heavenly tones, and with their   
   primitive authority.  By thus restoring natural religion, by thus   
   appealing to those divine counselors and prophets of eternity, it   
   overthrows all arbitrary systems of religion which are not founded in the   
   nature and reason of things; and puts to eternal silence all capricious   
   advisers.  Thus by fulfilling the true, the right, the good, and the   
   holy, it destroys all that is false, wrong, bad, and profane.   
      
   Other religions have also their sacred books.  The Hindoos [sic] have   
   their Vedas and puranas ; Mahometans their Koran ; sectarians their   
   creed.  These books are deemed by the foolish among their followers   
   greater than the soul, superior to conscience, reason and the religious   
   sentiment.  They are appealed to as masters, the last standard of faith,   
   are honored as the sole and exclusive foundation of these peculiar   
   religions systems.  They can only be the basis of a system that is not   
   founded in the nature and reason of things.  Faith in the peculiar   
   institutions of such books, in the Vedas, Korans and creeds, in any   
   arbitrary system, is not freedom but bondage.  It is not obedience to the   
   universal "law of the spirit of life," but to some partial statute of   
   man's device.  It degrades man while it comforts him.  It puts his better   
   nature to a deadly sleep before it offers him relief from the present, or   
   faith for the future.  Such systems the apostle well calls the "Hagars   
   shapen in ignorance, born into bondage with their children, which are to   
   be driven out before the freeborn Isaac, and destined like Ishmael to   
   have their hand against every man."  Of the scriptures, then, it may be   
   said, as it has been of the Sabbath:  "The Bible was made for man, not   
   man for the Bible."   
   ''   
    -Theodore Parker, _The Transient and Permanent in Christianity_   
      
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