From: arkent3@earthlink.net   
      
   "Being Awake" Is not "Feeling Awake" A Spiritual Dialogue from the Past.   
      
   Dialogue with Peter Sparacino, Bruce Morgen, and Raymond Karczewski   
      
   rk: In the beginning of the thread "feeling awake," Kimberland asked the   
   simple question, "What does it feel like to be awake?"   
      
   The question remains unexamined.   
      
   rk: One only need look at the tangents the thread has since taken and the   
   divisive quality it has acquired.   
      
   rk: Are not "feeling awake" and "being awake" of vastly different vibrations?   
   Is not the latter a vibration of holistic energy which therefore encompasses   
   the lesser vibration of "feeling awake?"   
      
   rk: Certainly this is a topic which calls for serious dialogue. What say,   
   John, Bruce, Eric, Pete, and all others interested in observing    
   oment-by-moment the unfolding spirit of Truth as it manifests itself? Isn't it   
   time to allow Truth to tell us its    
   story? Isn't it time for serious men/women to put away the "things of   
   spiritual childhood," the tendency to debate and compete for whatever temporal   
   pleasures such nonsense provides? Is it not time for men and women of "good   
   will" to speak their Truth?    
   Is it not also time to bypass the constant traps set by those of noisy   
   intellect whose only purpose is to obstruct, obfuscate, and misdirect the   
   momentum of Truth as it unfolds in the moment?   
      
   rk: Let us begin by examining the energy of awareness--awakeness. What does it   
   mean for one to "be awake" and not merely dreamily "talk about" theories of   
   being awake? To do so, must we not speak only of our own self- realized Truth   
   without adding to or    
   detracting from it? It is so easy for conditioned man to fall into the   
   comfortable but corrupting habit of living according to the borrowed dead   
   words of "others.".   
      
   rk: The civilized world is a thought-based world populated by dead men. Men   
   who, through the seduction of a power-promising, dualistic intellect, have   
   eschewed the living energy of Truth as evidenced in the timeless moment of Now   
   in favor of serving and    
   worshipping the false god of knowledge which rules consciousness in the dead   
   "aftermoment."   
      
   rk: Through the medium of conditioning, such dead men operate from blind   
   belief. They emulate, pretend, and parrot the "apparent" living (but actually   
   dead aftermoment based) words of others long absent from this time-bound plane   
   of existence. It matters    
   not to mechanical believers that the dead authors of these words may or may   
   not have had direct experiential resonance of that "living holistic energy of   
   Truth."   
      
   rk: So let us set aside the words of the dead past and allow the timeless   
   holistic (holy) spirit of intelligence to guide us and form our words in the   
   living moment. Anything less is sure to lead to the trap of one's own   
   psychologically conditioned    
   intellectual projections. That is the seduction that all knowledge bound men   
   cannot escape. In their ignorance they do not see that they are the authors of   
   their own thoughts. In their ignorance they do not see that the thought that   
   is habitually    
   reinforced soon becomes the god they come to worship. That is the enslavement   
   of man through his own thought process. That is the nature of mind control.   
      
   rk: Civilizations, ancient and modern alike, have risen and fallen under the   
   same cycle of illusion.   
      
   rk: Meditation is the out-of-time moment of silence which allows a fleeting   
   liberating flash of insight to unburden a consciousness enslaved to the   
   intellect. It is the simple, holistic energy of Truth which stops the momentum   
   of aftermoment-based,    
   linear, fragmented thought.   
      
   rk: In a pristine moment of Self-Realization, one comes to realize the   
   presence of a timeless, multidimensional consciousness which has always been   
   with us but overshadowed by the linear time-bound conditioning we were   
   subjected to as youngsters. That    
   matrix of dualistic thought is the barrier to the realization of Truth, here   
   and now. It is the modern day characterization of the Biblical adage, "the   
   Sins of the Fathers shall be visited upon their Sons."   
      
   rk: Truth is Love. Truth is Life. Truth is the Way. Truth IS!!!   
      
   rk: All else is a corruption, is it not? Why so? Simply because all else is   
   found in the aftermoment of a dualistic thought-based intellect. The energy of   
   the dualistic intellect is friction, plain and simple. Such friction arises   
   from the inherent    
   compartmentalized fragmentation and divisiveness of a contradictory intellect.   
      
   rk: To be awake is to "BE HERE NOW!" To feel awake is quite simply "almost but   
   no cigar," wouldn't you say? What say you Bruce, John, Eric, Pete? Jump in   
   here.   
      
   rk: It's time to awaken our sleeping brothers and sisters from their   
   "feel-good" hypnotic slumber.   
      
   Peter: Frankly I think that your "Horatio on the Bridge" stance while facing   
   all comers in the squared circle is an attribute that is not easily dismissed   
   by those who witness your taking on all who dare to challenge the veracity of   
   your postings. Fill    
   the ring with those who are in agreement with your posts plays into those   
   hands who have alleged without any proof or success that you are the leader of   
   a cult from whom you draw your resource and energy.   
      
   Peter: Deny them that lie. My belief is that any kind of dialogue takes away   
   from the real issues that your post lay before all who have been following the   
   action...especially if those who log on as being in harmony with your posts   
   are not able to do    
   justice to the concepts for many reasons, such as poor writing skills,   
   inadequate grammar, or the inability to express the greater realities with   
   spoken or written word... I recognize that your posts are not the result of   
   intellection but rather your    
   body becomes a mere physical conduit for the concepts that come from beyond   
   your own human limitations.   
      
   rk: Pete, thanks for the comments. However, the time is now for the momentum   
   of the last three years to be broken so that we as humanity may move on to a   
   "new consciousness." In relationship with others on these newsgroups, I have   
   amply demonstrated,    
   through the pushing of conditioned "buttons," what the Hell of the "old   
   consciousness" looks like. Isn't it time that we move on?   
      
      
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