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   Raymond Karczewski to All   
   Re: Ray Karczewski, A Study in Delusion    
   11 Dec 18 14:19:23   
   
   From: arkent3@earthlink.net   
      
   Re: Ray Karczewski, A Study in Delusion and Gullibility -- A Disinformation   
   Schmooze Piece.   
      
   "Dr. Postman's Ghost"   aka Chadwicke Stone wrote:   
      
   Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net_ wrote:   
      
   Date: 11 Dec 2010 19:46:43 GMT   
      
   dpg: >> Raymond Karczewski is truthful. He is the most honest man he knows. I   
   do not mean this to be backhanded. He does not mean to deceive or mislead.   
   But, he is still wrong and most of what he says will mislead and turn out to   
   be lies. How? Is this a    
   contradiction? No.   
      
   rk: Ah! a new fictional Internet Handle for the Same Disinformation Agents. So   
   what else is new? By the way, I noticed your phoney "GOV" email address.   
      
   rk: Whoever and whichever agent you are, it is widely apparent that, you don't   
   know what Truth Is, nor do you know what a Lie is? I've read your entire post.   
   What I've observed were the usual opinions lacking evidence to support such   
   opinions. But isn't    
   that what disinformation agents do?   
      
   dpg: >> Ray suffers a delusion. He perceives himself to be enlightened and to   
   have a grasp on THE truth.   
      
   rk: Where is the evidence that I don't? Why don't you produce it?   
      
   dpg: >> His is an intellectual dislocation, eschewing intellectualism, he   
   relies upon his own intellect to create his self supporting delusion.   
      
   rk: No so! But then again if you seriously have read what I write, you would   
   know from where the Truth arises in me. Certainly it is not the Intellect.   
      
   dpg: >> As far as Ray is capable, he tells the truth as known to him. He   
   cannot lie while trapped in his delusion. Everyone else is false and can never   
   approach his level.   
      
   rk: 15 years of your unrelenting attacks have proven that your positions are   
   false, and have not reached my level of Consciousness. So I guess you have   
   unwittingly expressed a Truth, have you not?   
      
   dpg: >> If anyone attempts or comes close, he MUST find fault and discover how   
   that person could wrong. Any who agree with him must be suspect, because his   
   delusion is supported by the most powerful weapon he has, a sense of   
   persecution.   
      
   rk: Such statement is a matter of psychological projection on your part. It is   
   you, and your Cohorts who feel the sting of exposure and wince every time you   
   look into the "Mirror of Truth."   
      
   dpg: >> Ray is also gullible. In the past he has discovered several schemes   
   that support his set of delusions. The sovereignity, redemption, and   
   "admiralty" schemes are just a few. The weavers of these schemes are at best,   
   as delusional as Ray, and thus    
   provide his support, especially when they have a background of being   
   persecuted. At worst, they are scammers, making money off of the gullible and   
   setting up their victims for greater falls. When victims fall, they are used   
   as heroes by the perpetrators    
   in order to set up more sales. Sometimes victims find others they can set up   
   as examples, a salve for their inner voices that try to bring sanity back.   
      
   rk: As expected, such narrow, parochial perceptions are typical of   
   Disinformation Agents. The Big Picture reveals a Runaway Criminal Government   
   which rules its 14th Amendment Subjects/slaves with an iron fist of Tyranny. I   
   have stood up to their courts    
   in two UNLAWFUL trials. The Juristic Person was convicted in both trials, but   
   as you can readily see such convictions do not transfer onto "Living,   
   Breathing, Flesh-and- Blood, Sentient, Natural Men and Women, unless the   
   courts can SCHNOOKER the Living    
   Men Women into agreeing they are acting as a Surety and/or underwriter for the   
   fines and jail time meted out to the Strawman DEFENDANT. ONly a "Living Dead"   
   DUMMY who live in their minds would do that, wouldn't they. Now count the   
   number of DUMMIES now    
   languishing in American Jails today through such Trickery and deceit.   
      
   rk: However, utilizing, MY TRUTH, I AM NOT ONE OF THEM, AM I?. Shouldn't that   
   tell you something about "RAY'S TRUTH?"   
      
   dpg: >> The sovereignity and redemption scam set Ray up. When he started to   
   send out his leins and notices, he was arrested and c...harged with paper   
   terrorism.   
      
   rk: Yep, the Oregon, and JOSEPHINE COUNTY COURTS threatened me with 35 years   
   as a "Paper Terrorist." Despite the two convictions of the STRAWMAN DEFENDANT,   
   I haven't spent another day in jail after they threw me out of their jail, not   
   mentioning they    
   made no further move to send me to prison.   
      
   dpg: >> He was stopped and challenged over his vehicle registration   
   status and his lack of driver's license. The scam sucked him in. But, the scam   
   was also sold with a very easy way to explain the trouble, the courts were not   
   legal according to the scams.   
      
   rk: It is a fact that the present day Unconstitutional Maritime Courts,   
   practicing Admiralty Law are "legal", but they are NOT LAWFUL.   
   There is a wide schism between "legal" and LAWFUL..   
      
   dpg: >> The scam says you have to challenge the court, if the court responds   
   properly, then they must let you go, but, don't worry, the court will never   
   recognize their true status or they will fall like a house of cards, so you   
   will most likely be    
   locked up. Thus feeding the persecution complex.   
      
   rk: Au Contraire! The courts still have refused to answer the question of   
   Jurisdiction, even after they threw me out of their jail, eight years earlier.   
   You are correct however. Should the Courts answer the question of   
   Jurisdiction, their carefully    
   Public Relation built "House of Cards" would indeed crumble. But then again,   
   as long as the American People, shake, shiver and quiver with fear and are   
   unable to find their backbone in standing up and dealing with the few who   
   wield control over the    
   government and courts,, the Satanic Courts enforcing the Policies of their   
   Master, Corporate Government shall continue in their campaign of rape and   
   pillaging of the sacred, Unalienable Rights of the American People.   
      
   rk: What I have done, Three Hundred Million people can do. Where would a   
   tyrannicald government be then? Eh?   
      
   dpg: >> Ray has fallen for various monetary scams as well. He's eschewed his   
   "strawman" but used his wife as an ersatz strawman to do his banking.He's   
   eschewed the "fiat currency" but still uses it. He has promoted various   
   alternatives but never goes the    
   distance and participates. He may not be participating the latest ponzi   
   scheme, but he promotes it.   
      
      
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