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   From: me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net   
      
   "Free Lunch" wrote in message   
   news:kroap89c498pgk07js3e5cui1tq7od9edk@4ax.com...   
   > On Thu, 16 May 2013 18:24:10 -0400, "Scout"   
   > wrote in alt.atheism:   
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   >>   
   >>   
   >>"Free Lunch" wrote in message   
   >>news:8fmap81ea903324epphsnlp94855m2l0o2@4ax.com...   
   >>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 20:49:30 -0500, RD Sandman   
   >>> wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >>>   
   >>>>Free Lunch wrote in   
   >>>>news:fb48p8h4dheale4uoutm46c91a0ni7p8qc@4ax.com:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:41:05 -0600, deep wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman   
   >>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion of   
   >>>>>>>> additional   
   >>>>>>>> spending into that budget while he was President.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in revenue   
   >>>>>>>> shouldn't we calculate that entire amount added under Obama as   
   >>>>deficit   
   >>>>>>>> spending?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>;)   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Gee, and here I thought the budget was the responsiblity of the House   
   >>>>>>of Representatives.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Since when did The Executive write the budget?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The budget is just a plan. It has never had any meaning for congress,   
   >>>>> even if they pass it. The spending and tax bills are supposed to try   
   >>>>> to   
   >>>>> match the budget that might have been passed, but if they don't, no   
   >>>>> problem, only the spending and tax bills become law.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>And when compared to the budget, become deficits and surpluses which add   
   >>>>to the debt.   
   >>>   
   >>> Indeed they do. One of the biggest concerns in the West right now is   
   >>> that government spending has cut back too much, slowing the growth of   
   >>> the US, giving the Eurozone another recession and leaving the UK dead in   
   >>> the water. Deficits can be good or bad, depending on the rest of the   
   >>> economy. The national debt is already a sunk cost and can be generally   
   >>> ignored for short-term planning.   
   >>   
   >>Well, European countries are free to donate as much money as they like.   
   >>I'm   
   >>sure the Obama can find something to spend it on. He certainly hasn't had   
   >>trouble spending far more than we have.   
   >>   
   > You don't seem to understand the problem. Austerity at this time hurts   
   > Europe and it hurts the US. Austerity supporters have demonstrated their   
   > ignorance of economics.   
      
   I agree. Europe should borrow tons of money and give it to Obama so he can   
   spend it.   
      
   After all. Obama is already running the US into the ground at a rate of over   
   $1 Trillion dollars a year. Surely Europe should be able to match that if   
   they are really considered about declining US government spending.   
      
   Now you were saying something about austerity?   
      
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