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   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:22:03 -0400, "Scout"   
    wrote in alt.atheism:   
      
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   >"RD Sandman"  wrote in message   
   >news:XnsA1C2C1C9EC638hopewell@216.196.121.131...   
   >> Free Lunch  wrote in   
   >> news:bnmap814vfj9j8elqps9adk83utebvjmmc@4ax.com:   
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   >>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 02:12:39 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
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   >>>>"Zepp"  wrote in message   
   >>>>news:kn1q41$knk$9@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 01:06:12 -0400, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>>> "Zepp"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:kn1lji$knk$6@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 22:49:14 -0400, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>> "%"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>> news:RuSdnSUpfaALoQnMnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >>>>>>>>> Scout wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>> news:ba78p8tas9tjhvfghabbc3tedt9bmjvnpi@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 19:29:08 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional spending into that budget while he was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> President.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revenue shouldn't we calculate that entire amount added   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under Obama as deficit spending?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gee, and here I thought the budget was the responsiblity of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> the House of Representatives.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when did The Executive write the budget?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> When he fucking signs the bill into law.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> After both houses of Congress have passed it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> How long has it been since that happened?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Every fucking time a spending bill becomes law.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> And did occur when the $800 Billion in spending was added to   
   >>>>>>>>>> FY2008 budget with Obama's signature.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> a president has to sign it wich other one would you like   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yes, and in the case of the $800 Billion added to the FY2008   
   >>>>>>>> budget...that President was Obama. Not because I like it, but   
   >>>>>>>> because he was the President that signed the legislation into   
   >>>>>>>> law.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> He signed the FY2008 budget in 2009.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I see.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Tell us MORE, Scooty!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Why?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You're not bothering to read what I wrote.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> What part of "ADDED TO" (emphasis added) do you think means he   
   >>>>>> signed the original budget?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Well then, perhaps you could tell us how something he signed in 2009   
   >>>>> added to a budget that was over several months earlier.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Ok..... real slowly. FY2008 runs between Sept 2008 and Sept 2009.   
   >>>   
   >>> It runs between Oct 1, 2007 and Sept 30, 2008. I don't know why they   
   >>> use that convention.   
   >>>   
   >>>>You will note that Obama took office in Jan 2009. If he signed   
   >>>>spending legislation between Jan 2009 and Sept 2009 he could ADD more   
   >>>>spending to the FY2008 budget. Which SOB is EXACTLY what he did. To   
   >>>>the tune of $800 Billlion in additional deficit spending.   
   >>>   
   >>> He did add spending and foolishly added too many useless tax cuts that   
   >>> didn't help the economy.   
   >>   
   >> But not to the FY2008 FY which ended 9/30/08.  He took office under the   
   >> 2009FY budget.   
   >   
   >Oops, and I kept saying FY2008.... my mistake. Should have been 2009.   
   >   
   >Still doesn't alter that Obama is responsible for a major portion of that   
   >year's deficit.   
   >   
   >So congrats, they won at picking nits and ignoring the point being made.   
      
   The point being that the additional $800 billion was too small and not   
   spent fast enough and that too much of it was tax cuts for those who   
   didn't need tax cuts.   
      
   >>>>I will acknowledge your ignorance not only of Obama's actions, but how   
   >>>>the government runs it's fiscal year.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Now, are there any other gems of your ignorance you would like to   
   >>>>display to the world?   
   >>>   
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   >> --   
   >> Sleep well, tonight.....   
   >>   
   >> RD (The Sandman   
   >>   
   >> You can be young without money, but you   
   >> can't be old without it.   
      
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