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   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:08:58 -0400, "Scout"   
    wrote in alt.atheism:   
      
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   >"Free Lunch"  wrote in message   
   >news:kroap89c498pgk07js3e5cui1tq7od9edk@4ax.com...   
   >> On Thu, 16 May 2013 18:24:10 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
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   >>>"Free Lunch"  wrote in message   
   >>>news:8fmap81ea903324epphsnlp94855m2l0o2@4ax.com...   
   >>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 20:49:30 -0500, RD Sandman   
   >>>>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>Free Lunch  wrote in   
   >>>>>news:fb48p8h4dheale4uoutm46c91a0ni7p8qc@4ax.com:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:41:05 -0600, deep wrote in alt.atheism:   
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   >>>>>>>On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman   
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion of   
   >>>>>>>>> additional   
   >>>>>>>>> spending into that budget while he was President.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in revenue   
   >>>>>>>>> shouldn't we calculate that entire amount added under Obama as   
   >>>>>deficit   
   >>>>>>>>> spending?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>;)   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Gee, and here I thought the budget was the responsiblity of the House   
   >>>>>>>of Representatives.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Since when did The Executive write the budget?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The budget is just a plan. It has never had any meaning for congress,   
   >>>>>> even if they pass it. The spending and tax bills are supposed to try   
   >>>>>> to   
   >>>>>> match the budget that might have been passed, but if they don't, no   
   >>>>>> problem, only the spending and tax bills become law.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>And when compared to the budget, become deficits and surpluses which add   
   >>>>>to the debt.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Indeed they do. One of the biggest concerns in the West right now is   
   >>>> that government spending has cut back too much, slowing the growth of   
   >>>> the US, giving the Eurozone another recession and leaving the UK dead in   
   >>>> the water. Deficits can be good or bad, depending on the rest of the   
   >>>> economy. The national debt is already a sunk cost and can be generally   
   >>>> ignored for short-term planning.   
   >>>   
   >>>Well, European countries are free to donate as much money as they like.   
   >>>I'm   
   >>>sure the Obama can find something to spend it on. He certainly hasn't had   
   >>>trouble spending far more than we have.   
   >>>   
   >> You don't seem to understand the problem. Austerity at this time hurts   
   >> Europe and it hurts the US. Austerity supporters have demonstrated their   
   >> ignorance of economics.   
   >   
   >I agree. Europe should borrow tons of money and give it to Obama so he can   
   >spend it.   
   >   
   >After all. Obama is already running the US into the ground at a rate of over   
   >$1 Trillion dollars a year. Surely Europe should be able to match that if   
   >they are really considered about declining US government spending.   
   >   
   >Now you were saying something about austerity?   
   >   
   >   
   You keep reminding us that you understand nothing about economics or   
   about the US deficit.   
      
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