XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Fri, 17 May 2013 12:14:13 -0500, RD Sandman   
    wrote in alt.atheism:   
      
   >Free Lunch  wrote in   
   >news:59ocp8lekgqdkorlm9lcvjgaseqsum6qrd@4ax.com:   
   >   
   >> On Fri, 17 May 2013 10:30:50 -0500, RD Sandman   
   >>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >>   
   >>>Free Lunch  wrote in   
   >>>news:vgecp89b4ct8u06mvcmhedm0ercri3b5gg@4ax.com:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 21:43:55 -0500, RD Sandman   
   >>>>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>deep wrote in news:h85bp8p08pctdpcmrnhlao2m669ocsvbi0@4ax.com:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:22:03 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> But not to the FY2008 FY which ended 9/30/08.  He took office   
   >under   
   >>>>>>>> the 2009FY budget.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Oops, and I kept saying FY2008.... my mistake. Should have been   
   >2009.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Still doesn't alter that Obama is responsible for a major portion   
   >of   
   >>>>>>>that year's deficit.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> No, he's not.  A minor portion, but he inherited the worst recession   
   >>>>>> in decades.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>As a result of deregulation from both sides of the aisle over two   
   >>>>>decades, failure of the dot.com industries, lack of oversight from the   
   >>>>>Democrats in 2007 and 2008, being ignored by his own party despite three   
   >>>>>attempts to get their attention and his taxcuts.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The economic catastrophe was already baked in by the beginning of  2007.   
   >>>   
   >>>As noted, it began a couple of decades ago with the start of weakening   
   >>>Glass Steagal in 1980.   
   >>>   
   >>>> The Democrats could have done nothing to stop it from happening.   
   >>>   
   >>>They voted for a lot of the deregulation.   
   >>   
   >> Before 2007, absolutely.   
   >   
   >What part of going on for a couple of decades would be prior to 2007? ;)   
   >   
   >The first weakening on Glass Steagel was in 1980.   
      
   I don't disagree with that point. I was noting that the " lack of   
   oversight from the Democrats in 2007 and 2008" was any empty objection.   
   The horse had been ridden off long before.   
      
   >>>Of   
   >>>> course too many Democrats are as beholden to Wall Street as the GOP   
   >is,   
   >>>> so there's not much we can expect in real reform any time soon.   
   >>>   
   >>>Obama has had 5 years now.....where are we with that?   
   >>   
   >> We have a government that is going nowhere because the Republicans   
   >> refuse to govern.   
   >   
   >Hmmmm, seems Obama got his signature bill through while our economy was   
   >in collapse.   
      
   In the first two years, some efforts were made, but then America's   
   voters voted for enough of the party of fools and racism to bring things   
   to a halt.   
      
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