XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns   
   From: dead@gone.com   
      
   On Fri, 17 May 2013 14:53:00 -0500, RD Sandman wrote:   
      
   > Klaus Schadenfreude  wrote in   
   > news:msucp8hn3utue1ujitm37me0hulmgdbdkq@4ax.com:   
   >   
   >> On Fri, 17 May 2013 17:20:43 +0000 (UTC), Zepp  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:16:09 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 15:10:26 +0000 (UTC), Zepp  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:37:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:31:32 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:29:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude   
   >>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:28:56 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:17:42 -0600, deep wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:06:49 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> You don't seem to understand the problem. Austerity at this   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> time hurts Europe and it hurts the US. Austerity supporters   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> have demonstrated their ignorance of economics.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>Not really, that ignorance of economics was there before the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>austerity measures were put into place to try and fix them.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>Austerity during a recession is one example of ignorance by   
   >>>>>>>>>>>political leaders. There's plenty of other nonsense that many   
   >>>>>>>>>>>political leaders believe, economic and otherwise. Reactionary   
   >>>>>>>>>>>leaders tend to believe the most nonsense.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>The problem with austerity is it's only austerity for the poor   
   >>>>>>>>>>and middle class.  The wealthy get to have an orgy of rape of   
   >>>>>>>>>>the national treasuries.  During periods of "austerity" the top   
   >>>>>>>>>>1% keeps getting richer and richer while the poor have to learn   
   >>>>>>>>>>how to get by without things like food and medical care.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>Funny how the rich always do well.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Funny how you can't figure out why that might be.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>I know why.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Do you really? Because you claimed it was "funny" and I'm guessing   
   >>>>>> you didn't think it was "ha ha" funny but that it was "Strangely or   
   >>>>>> suspiciously odd; curious" funny.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So it sounded like you didn't understand why rich people "always"   
   >>>>>> do well.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It's because they have a lot of money.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Our alleged democracy   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> This isn't a democracy. Never has been. Perhaps your   
   >>>>>> misunderstanding of our government is the source of your ignorance.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>What are the first three words in the Constitution, bubbles?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> What does that have to do with democracy, dumb shit? Do you even know   
   >>>> what kind of government we have?   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>           [crickets.wav]   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>> Yeah, didn't think so.   
   >>>   
   >>>What are the first three words of the Constitution, bubbles? It's not a   
   >>>very hard question. Google it if you don't know.   
   >>   
   >> Completely irrelevant.   
   >>   
   >> The rest of the words very clearly demonstrate we're not a democracy.   
   >   
   > Actually, there is very little difference between a republic and a   
   > representative democracy.  Too many people look at a democracy as only   
   > being a pure democracy, a direct democracy, etc to realize that there is   
   > also a representative democracy.   
   >   
   >> You didn't know that, did you?   
   >>   
   >> [chuckle]   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
      
   What this illiterate bonehead doesn't understand is that a Republic and a   
   Democracy are two different things, but they don't exist exclusive of   
   each other--it's usually the opposite, in fact.   
      
   A Republic is any modern nation/state that is neither a monarchy nor a   
   theocracy.   
      
   A Democracy is any nation/state where sovereignty lies with the people.   
      
   The UK is a Democracy, but not a Republic.  Same for Canada.  Saudi   
   Arabia is a Republic, but not a democracy, even though they have voting.   
   Sovereignty lies with Allah. But the large majority of modern nation   
   states, including America, are both Republics and Democracies.   
      
   Klod is pretty pathetic.  He knows absolutely nothing of his own   
   country's history or political make up.   
      
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