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   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:41:40 -0400, "Scout"   
    wrote in alt.atheism:   
      
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   >"Free Lunch"  wrote in message   
   >news:aeecp8tfpnr4m4el4l74ego9a1nsqn6qen@4ax.com...   
   >> On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:22:03 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
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   >>>"RD Sandman"  wrote in message   
   >>>news:XnsA1C2C1C9EC638hopewell@216.196.121.131...   
   >>>> Free Lunch  wrote in   
   >>>> news:bnmap814vfj9j8elqps9adk83utebvjmmc@4ax.com:   
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   >>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 02:12:39 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
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   >>>>>>"Zepp"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>news:kn1q41$knk$9@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 01:06:12 -0400, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>> "Zepp"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>> news:kn1lji$knk$6@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 22:49:14 -0400, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>> "%"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>> news:RuSdnSUpfaALoQnMnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Scout wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> news:ba78p8tas9tjhvfghabbc3tedt9bmjvnpi@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 19:29:08 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:lh38p85kuemf4734npo38fm2kgpk4d0mpk@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional spending into that budget while he was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> President.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revenue shouldn't we calculate that entire amount added   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under Obama as deficit spending?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gee, and here I thought the budget was the responsiblity of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the House of Representatives.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when did The Executive write the budget?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When he fucking signs the bill into law.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> After both houses of Congress have passed it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> How long has it been since that happened?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Every fucking time a spending bill becomes law.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> And did occur when the $800 Billion in spending was added to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> FY2008 budget with Obama's signature.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> a president has to sign it wich other one would you like   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Yes, and in the case of the $800 Billion added to the FY2008   
   >>>>>>>>>> budget...that President was Obama. Not because I like it, but   
   >>>>>>>>>> because he was the President that signed the legislation into   
   >>>>>>>>>> law.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> He signed the FY2008 budget in 2009.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> I see.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Tell us MORE, Scooty!   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Why?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You're not bothering to read what I wrote.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> What part of "ADDED TO" (emphasis added) do you think means he   
   >>>>>>>> signed the original budget?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Well then, perhaps you could tell us how something he signed in 2009   
   >>>>>>> added to a budget that was over several months earlier.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Ok..... real slowly. FY2008 runs between Sept 2008 and Sept 2009.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It runs between Oct 1, 2007 and Sept 30, 2008. I don't know why they   
   >>>>> use that convention.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>You will note that Obama took office in Jan 2009. If he signed   
   >>>>>>spending legislation between Jan 2009 and Sept 2009 he could ADD more   
   >>>>>>spending to the FY2008 budget. Which SOB is EXACTLY what he did. To   
   >>>>>>the tune of $800 Billlion in additional deficit spending.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> He did add spending and foolishly added too many useless tax cuts that   
   >>>>> didn't help the economy.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But not to the FY2008 FY which ended 9/30/08.  He took office under the   
   >>>> 2009FY budget.   
   >>>   
   >>>Oops, and I kept saying FY2008.... my mistake. Should have been 2009.   
   >>>   
   >>>Still doesn't alter that Obama is responsible for a major portion of that   
   >>>year's deficit.   
   >>>   
   >>>So congrats, they won at picking nits and ignoring the point being made.   
   >>   
   >> The point being that the additional $800 billion was too small and not   
   >> spent fast enough and that too much of it was tax cuts for those who   
   >> didn't need tax cuts.   
   >   
   >Well to date he's spent over $6 Trillion in deficit spending....so when   
   >exactly will it be enough?   
      
   Most of that deficit is left over from Bush's foolish tax cuts and   
   unfunded war spending.   
      
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