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   From: me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net   
      
   "Free Lunch"  wrote in message   
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   > On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:41:40 -0400, "Scout"   
   >  wrote in alt.atheism:   
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   >>"Free Lunch"  wrote in message   
   >>news:aeecp8tfpnr4m4el4l74ego9a1nsqn6qen@4ax.com...   
   >>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:22:03 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
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   >>>>"RD Sandman"  wrote in message   
   >>>>news:XnsA1C2C1C9EC638hopewell@216.196.121.131...   
   >>>>> Free Lunch  wrote in   
   >>>>> news:bnmap814vfj9j8elqps9adk83utebvjmmc@4ax.com:   
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   >>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 02:12:39 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
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   >>>>>>>"Zepp"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>news:kn1q41$knk$9@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 01:06:12 -0400, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>> "Zepp"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>> news:kn1lji$knk$6@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 22:49:14 -0400, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>> "%"  wrote in message   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>> Scout wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ba78p8tas9tjhvfghabbc3tedt9bmjvnpi@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 19:29:08 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional spending into that budget while he was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> President.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revenue shouldn't we calculate that entire amount added   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under Obama as deficit spending?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gee, and here I thought the budget was the responsiblity of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the House of Representatives.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when did The Executive write the budget?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When he fucking signs the bill into law.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> After both houses of Congress have passed it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How long has it been since that happened?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Every fucking time a spending bill becomes law.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> And did occur when the $800 Billion in spending was added to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> FY2008 budget with Obama's signature.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> a president has to sign it wich other one would you like   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, and in the case of the $800 Billion added to the FY2008   
   >>>>>>>>>>> budget...that President was Obama. Not because I like it, but   
   >>>>>>>>>>> because he was the President that signed the legislation into   
   >>>>>>>>>>> law.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> He signed the FY2008 budget in 2009.   
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   >>>>>>>>>> I see.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Tell us MORE, Scooty!   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Why?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You're not bothering to read what I wrote.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> What part of "ADDED TO" (emphasis added) do you think means he   
   >>>>>>>>> signed the original budget?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Well then, perhaps you could tell us how something he signed in   
   >>>>>>>> 2009   
   >>>>>>>> added to a budget that was over several months earlier.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Ok..... real slowly. FY2008 runs between Sept 2008 and Sept 2009.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It runs between Oct 1, 2007 and Sept 30, 2008. I don't know why they   
   >>>>>> use that convention.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>You will note that Obama took office in Jan 2009. If he signed   
   >>>>>>>spending legislation between Jan 2009 and Sept 2009 he could ADD more   
   >>>>>>>spending to the FY2008 budget. Which SOB is EXACTLY what he did. To   
   >>>>>>>the tune of $800 Billlion in additional deficit spending.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> He did add spending and foolishly added too many useless tax cuts   
   >>>>>> that   
   >>>>>> didn't help the economy.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> But not to the FY2008 FY which ended 9/30/08.  He took office under   
   >>>>> the   
   >>>>> 2009FY budget.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Oops, and I kept saying FY2008.... my mistake. Should have been 2009.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Still doesn't alter that Obama is responsible for a major portion of   
   >>>>that   
   >>>>year's deficit.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>So congrats, they won at picking nits and ignoring the point being made.   
   >>>   
   >>> The point being that the additional $800 billion was too small and not   
   >>> spent fast enough and that too much of it was tax cuts for those who   
   >>> didn't need tax cuts.   
   >>   
   >>Well to date he's spent over $6 Trillion in deficit spending....so when   
   >>exactly will it be enough?   
   >   
   > Most of that deficit is left over from Bush's foolish tax cuts and   
   > unfunded war spending.   
      
   No, actually most of it's from Obama's excessive spending.   
      
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