XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns   
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   On Fri, 17 May 2013 22:11:32 -0700, Jason wrote:   
      
   > In article , Zepp  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Fri, 17 May 2013 15:46:23 -0700, Jason wrote:   
   >>   
   >> > In article , linuxgal   
   >> >  wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> >> Zepp wrote:   
   >> >> > On Thu, 16 May 2013 17:58:00 -0800, linuxgal wrote:   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >> >Jason wrote:   
   >> >> >>> >>Yes, I just checked my list of talking points and the AP story   
   >> >> >>> >>is on the list. It appears that Holder is tapping the phone   
   >> >> >>> >>lines of AP reporters. I incorrectly thought we had freedom of   
   >> >> >>> >>the press in America. I guess that Holder does not know it.   
   >> >> >> >   
   >> >> >> >There's a lot of things Holder doesn't know.  He said "I don't   
   >> >> >> >know" 57 times to Congress the other day.   
   >> >> > Given the crazy questions he got from some of them, god would have   
   >> >> > said "I don't know" at least 35 times.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Q. "Why didn't the Justice Department inform the Associated Press,   
   >> >> as the law requires, before pawing through reporter's phone   
   >> >> records?"   
   >> >>   
   >> >> A. "I don't know."   
   >> >>   
   >> >> The good news is that Holder is revealed, even to Democrats, to be a   
   >> >> purely political appointee with absolutely no qualifications to be   
   >> >> AG.   
   >> >> He won't last out the year.   
   >> >   
   >> > Obama still supports him since Holder is doing Obama's dirty work.   
   >> >   
   >> > It reminds me of various Mafia movies. The Mafia top bosses have   
   >> > people that do their dirty work for them.   
   >> >   
   >> > That means when they are arrested the Mafia bosses can honestly say   
   >> > they never killed anyone or sold any illegal drugs. They will even   
   >> > LIE and say things like they never ordered anyone to do various dirty   
   >> > deeds.   
   >> >   
   >> > Holder is doing whatever Obama tells him to do and would NEVER say   
   >> > that Obama ordered him to do those dirty deeds.   
   >>   
   >> Which means that the AP scandal is like Watergate started out: a third-   
   >> rate burglary.  Only it's unlikely that we'll ever hear tapes of Obama   
   >> ordering a cover-up of it.   
   >>   
   >> Do I think Obama is involved in it?  Shrug.  It's possible. Without   
   >> proof, though, it doesn't amount to anything.   
   >>   
   >> I see Holder denies involvement, too.  Again, without proof, the   
   >> scandal goes nowhere.  My guess is that a few junior people fall on   
   >> their swords,   
   >> the administration earnestly vows that such a terrible transgression of   
   >> the Constitution must never be allowed to happen again, and we all just   
   >> hope that the incident scared them enough that they meant it.   
   >   
   > The Mafia does the same kind of thing. The top Mafia bosses never get   
   > blamed. The people that work for them would NEVER say that the Mafia   
   > bosses ordered them to do dirty deeds. If they do say they were   
   > following orders, they will be killed and they know it.   
      
   Burden of proof gets very steep indeed when it comes to the rich and   
   famous.  Nixon should have been hanged for his role in prolonging the   
   Vietnam War, and Reagan in prison for life for his role in Iran Contra.   
   Those were far worse crimes that cost thousands of lives and billions of   
   dollars.   
      
   The AP thing is the only scandal were I even think it's likely that Obama   
   at least knew about it, but somehow that doesn't quite rise to the same   
   level as sabotaging the Paris peace talks for an election advantage, or   
   getting 320 Marines blown to shit in Beirut. Yet nobody went to jail   
   then, either.   
      
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