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   On Sat, 18 May 2013 00:18:48 -0400, Scout wrote:   
      
   > "Free Lunch"  wrote in message   
   > news:rpqdp85ridf1kvunnuo5bh3aqusdcf0loo@4ax.com...   
   >> On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:41:40 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
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   >>>"Free Lunch"  wrote in message   
   >>>news:aeecp8tfpnr4m4el4l74ego9a1nsqn6qen@4ax.com...   
   >>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:22:03 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
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   >>>>>"RD Sandman"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>news:XnsA1C2C1C9EC638hopewell@216.196.121.131...   
   >>>>>> Free Lunch  wrote in   
   >>>>>> news:bnmap814vfj9j8elqps9adk83utebvjmmc@4ax.com:   
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   >>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 02:12:39 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
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   >>>>>>>>"Zepp"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>news:kn1q41$knk$9@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 01:06:12 -0400, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>> "Zepp"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>> news:kn1lji$knk$6@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 22:49:14 -0400, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>> "%"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> news:RuSdnSUpfaALoQnMnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Scout wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ba78p8tas9tjhvfghabbc3tedt9bmjvnpi@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 19:29:08 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of additional spending into that budget while he was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> President.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revenue shouldn't we calculate that entire amount   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> added under Obama as deficit spending?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gee, and here I thought the budget was the responsiblity   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the House of Representatives.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when did The Executive write the budget?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When he fucking signs the bill into law.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After both houses of Congress have passed it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How long has it been since that happened?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every fucking time a spending bill becomes law.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And did occur when the $800 Billion in spending was added   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to FY2008 budget with Obama's signature.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> a president has to sign it wich other one would you like   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, and in the case of the $800 Billion added to the FY2008   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> budget...that President was Obama. Not because I like it, but   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> because he was the President that signed the legislation into   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> law.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> He signed the FY2008 budget in 2009.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> I see.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Tell us MORE, Scooty!   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Why?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You're not bothering to read what I wrote.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> What part of "ADDED TO" (emphasis added) do you think means he   
   >>>>>>>>>> signed the original budget?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Well then, perhaps you could tell us how something he signed in   
   >>>>>>>>> 2009 added to a budget that was over several months earlier.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Ok..... real slowly. FY2008 runs between Sept 2008 and Sept 2009.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> It runs between Oct 1, 2007 and Sept 30, 2008. I don't know why   
   >>>>>>> they use that convention.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>You will note that Obama took office in Jan 2009. If he signed   
   >>>>>>>>spending legislation between Jan 2009 and Sept 2009 he could ADD   
   >>>>>>>>more spending to the FY2008 budget. Which SOB is EXACTLY what he   
   >>>>>>>>did. To the tune of $800 Billlion in additional deficit spending.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> He did add spending and foolishly added too many useless tax cuts   
   >>>>>>> that didn't help the economy.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> But not to the FY2008 FY which ended 9/30/08.  He took office under   
   >>>>>> the 2009FY budget.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Oops, and I kept saying FY2008.... my mistake. Should have been 2009.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Still doesn't alter that Obama is responsible for a major portion of   
   >>>>>that year's deficit.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>So congrats, they won at picking nits and ignoring the point being   
   >>>>>made.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The point being that the additional $800 billion was too small and   
   >>>> not spent fast enough and that too much of it was tax cuts for those   
   >>>> who didn't need tax cuts.   
   >>>   
   >>>Well to date he's spent over $6 Trillion in deficit spending....so when   
   >>>exactly will it be enough?   
   >>   
   >> Most of that deficit is left over from Bush's foolish tax cuts and   
   >> unfunded war spending.   
   >   
   > No, actually most of it's from Obama's excessive spending.   
      
   Prove it.  I'm calling you a liar.   
      
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