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On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:19:36 -0700, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article ,
> Free Lunch wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:41:40 -0400, "Scout"
>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>>
>> >
>> >"Free Lunch" wrote in message
>> >news:aeecp8tfpnr4m4el4l74ego9a1nsqn6qen@4ax.com...
>> >> On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:22:03 -0400, "Scout"
>> >> wrote in alt.atheism:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>"RD Sandman" wrote in message
>> >>>news:XnsA1C2C1C9EC638hopewell@216.196.121.131...
>> >>>> Free Lunch wrote in
>> >>>> news:bnmap814vfj9j8elqps9adk83utebvjmmc@4ax.com:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 02:12:39 -0400, "Scout"
>> >>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>"Zepp" wrote in message
>> >>>>>>news:kn1q41$knk$9@dont-email.me...
>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 01:06:12 -0400, Scout wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> "Zepp" wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>> news:kn1lji$knk$6@dont-email.me...
>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 22:49:14 -0400, Scout wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> "%" wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>> news:RuSdnSUpfaALoQnMnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Scout wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> news:ba78p8tas9tjhvfghabbc3tedt9bmjvnpi@4ax.com...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 19:29:08 -0400, "Scout"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:lh38p85kuemf4734npo38fm2kgpk4d0mpk@4ax.com...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of additional spending into that budget while he was
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> President.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revenue shouldn't we calculate that entire amount
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> added under Obama as deficit spending?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gee, and here I thought the budget was the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsiblity of the House of Representatives.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when did The Executive write the budget?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When he fucking signs the bill into law.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> After both houses of Congress have passed it.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How long has it been since that happened?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Every fucking time a spending bill becomes law.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And did occur when the $800 Billion in spending was added
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> to FY2008 budget with Obama's signature.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> a president has to sign it wich other one would you like
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, and in the case of the $800 Billion added to the FY2008
>> >>>>>>>>>> budget...that President was Obama. Not because I like it,
>> >>>>>>>>>> but because he was the President that signed the legislation
>> >>>>>>>>>> into law.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> He signed the FY2008 budget in 2009.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I see.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Tell us MORE, Scooty!
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Why?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> You're not bothering to read what I wrote.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> What part of "ADDED TO" (emphasis added) do you think means he
>> >>>>>>>> signed the original budget?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Well then, perhaps you could tell us how something he signed in
>> >>>>>>> 2009 added to a budget that was over several months earlier.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Ok..... real slowly. FY2008 runs between Sept 2008 and Sept 2009.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It runs between Oct 1, 2007 and Sept 30, 2008. I don't know why
>> >>>>> they use that convention.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>You will note that Obama took office in Jan 2009. If he signed
>> >>>>>>spending legislation between Jan 2009 and Sept 2009 he could ADD
>> >>>>>>more spending to the FY2008 budget. Which SOB is EXACTLY what he
>> >>>>>>did. To the tune of $800 Billlion in additional deficit spending.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> He did add spending and foolishly added too many useless tax cuts
>> >>>>> that didn't help the economy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But not to the FY2008 FY which ended 9/30/08. He took office
>> >>>> under the 2009FY budget.
>> >>>
>> >>>Oops, and I kept saying FY2008.... my mistake. Should have been
>> >>>2009.
>> >>>
>> >>>Still doesn't alter that Obama is responsible for a major portion of
>> >>>that year's deficit.
>> >>>
>> >>>So congrats, they won at picking nits and ignoring the point being
>> >>>made.
>> >>
>> >> The point being that the additional $800 billion was too small and
>> >> not spent fast enough and that too much of it was tax cuts for those
>> >> who didn't need tax cuts.
>> >
>> >Well to date he's spent over $6 Trillion in deficit spending....so
>> >when exactly will it be enough?
>>
>> Most of that deficit is left over from Bush's foolish tax cuts and
>> unfunded war spending.
>
> AND Medicare Part D.
>
> Everyone who voted for that with no funding source specified should be
> slapped.
Until last year, the government wasn't even allowed to negotiate drug
prices with the big pharmaceuticals, but instead had to accept whatever
price they charged. Needless to say, prices went through the roof.
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