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   Scout to All   
   Re: #WHY THE IRS SCANDAL SHOULD LEAD TO    
   18 May 13 04:41:50   
   
   XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns   
   From: me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net   
      
   "Jeanne Douglas"  wrote in message   
   news:hlwdjsd2-A7D3FE.00400118052013@news.giganews.com...   
   > In article , Zepp  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 00:18:48 -0400, Scout wrote:   
   >>   
   >> > "Free Lunch"  wrote in message   
   >> > news:rpqdp85ridf1kvunnuo5bh3aqusdcf0loo@4ax.com...   
   >> >> On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:41:40 -0400, "Scout"   
   >> >>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >> >>   
   >> >>   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>>"Free Lunch"  wrote in message   
   >> >>>news:aeecp8tfpnr4m4el4l74ego9a1nsqn6qen@4ax.com...   
   >> >>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:22:03 -0400, "Scout"   
   >> >>>>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >> >>>>   
   >> >>>>   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>>"RD Sandman"  wrote in message   
   >> >>>>>news:XnsA1C2C1C9EC638hopewell@216.196.121.131...   
   >> >>>>>> Free Lunch  wrote in   
   >> >>>>>> news:bnmap814vfj9j8elqps9adk83utebvjmmc@4ax.com:   
   >> >>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 02:12:39 -0400, "Scout"   
   >> >>>>>>>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>"Zepp"  wrote in message   
   >> >>>>>>>>news:kn1q41$knk$9@dont-email.me...   
   >> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 01:06:12 -0400, Scout wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>> "Zepp"  wrote in message   
   >> >>>>>>>>>> news:kn1lji$knk$6@dont-email.me...   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 22:49:14 -0400, Scout wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>> "%"  wrote in message   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>> news:RuSdnSUpfaALoQnMnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Scout wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ba78p8tas9tjhvfghabbc3tedt9bmjvnpi@4ax.com...   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 19:29:08 -0400, "Scout"   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:lh38p85kuemf4734npo38fm2kgpk4d0mpk@4ax.com...   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of additional spending into that budget while he was   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> President.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revenue shouldn't we calculate that entire amount   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> added under Obama as deficit spending?   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;)   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gee, and here I thought the budget was the   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsiblity   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the House of Representatives.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when did The Executive write the budget?   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When he fucking signs the bill into law.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After both houses of Congress have passed it.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How long has it been since that happened?   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every fucking time a spending bill becomes law.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And did occur when the $800 Billion in spending was added   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to FY2008 budget with Obama's signature.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a president has to sign it wich other one would you like   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, and in the case of the $800 Billion added to the FY2008   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>> budget...that President was Obama. Not because I like it,   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>> but   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>> because he was the President that signed the legislation   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>> into   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>> law.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>> He signed the FY2008 budget in 2009.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>> I see.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>> Tell us MORE, Scooty!   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>> Why?   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>> You're not bothering to read what I wrote.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>> What part of "ADDED TO" (emphasis added) do you think means he   
   >> >>>>>>>>>> signed the original budget?   
   >> >>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>> Well then, perhaps you could tell us how something he signed in   
   >> >>>>>>>>> 2009 added to a budget that was over several months earlier.   
   >> >>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>Ok..... real slowly. FY2008 runs between Sept 2008 and Sept 2009.   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>> It runs between Oct 1, 2007 and Sept 30, 2008. I don't know why   
   >> >>>>>>> they use that convention.   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>You will note that Obama took office in Jan 2009. If he signed   
   >> >>>>>>>>spending legislation between Jan 2009 and Sept 2009 he could ADD   
   >> >>>>>>>>more spending to the FY2008 budget. Which SOB is EXACTLY what he   
   >> >>>>>>>>did. To the tune of $800 Billlion in additional deficit spending.   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>> He did add spending and foolishly added too many useless tax cuts   
   >> >>>>>>> that didn't help the economy.   
   >> >>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>> But not to the FY2008 FY which ended 9/30/08.  He took office   
   >> >>>>>> under   
   >> >>>>>> the 2009FY budget.   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>>Oops, and I kept saying FY2008.... my mistake. Should have been   
   >> >>>>>2009.   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>>Still doesn't alter that Obama is responsible for a major portion of   
   >> >>>>>that year's deficit.   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>>So congrats, they won at picking nits and ignoring the point being   
   >> >>>>>made.   
   >> >>>>   
   >> >>>> The point being that the additional $800 billion was too small and   
   >> >>>> not spent fast enough and that too much of it was tax cuts for those   
   >> >>>> who didn't need tax cuts.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>>Well to date he's spent over $6 Trillion in deficit spending....so   
   >> >>>when   
   >> >>>exactly will it be enough?   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Most of that deficit is left over from Bush's foolish tax cuts and   
   >> >> unfunded war spending.   
   >> >   
   >> > No, actually most of it's from Obama's excessive spending.   
   >>   
   >> Prove it.  I'm calling you a liar.   
   >   
   > What the hell excessive spending is he talking about?   
      
   I suppose you think Trillion dollar deficits are typical and normal?   
      
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