XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns   
   From: kiltmac@gmail.com   
      
   On 5/18/2013 9:26 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   > On Sat, 18 May 2013 09:06:21 -0500, Tom McDonald    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 5/18/2013 7:10 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 01:41:41 +0000 (UTC), Zepp  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 17:27:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 14:53:00 -0500, RD Sandman   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude  wrote in   
   >>>>>> news:msucp8hn3utue1ujitm37me0hulmgdbdkq@4ax.com:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 17:20:43 +0000 (UTC), Zepp  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:16:09 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 15:10:26 +0000 (UTC), Zepp    
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:37:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:31:32 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:29:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:28:56 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:17:42 -0600, deep wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:06:49 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You don't seem to understand the problem. Austerity at this   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time hurts Europe and it hurts the US. Austerity supporters   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have demonstrated their ignorance of economics.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really, that ignorance of economics was there before the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> austerity measures were put into place to try and fix them.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Austerity during a recession is one example of ignorance by   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political leaders. There's plenty of other nonsense that many   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political leaders believe, economic and otherwise. Reactionary   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leaders tend to believe the most nonsense.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem with austerity is it's only austerity for the poor   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and middle class.  The wealthy get to have an orgy of rape of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the national treasuries.  During periods of "austerity" the top   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1% keeps getting richer and richer while the poor have to learn   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to get by without things like food and medical care.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how the rich always do well.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how you can't figure out why that might be.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> I know why.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Do you really? Because you claimed it was "funny" and I'm guessing   
   >>>>>>>>>>> you didn't think it was "ha ha" funny but that it was "Strangely   
   >>>>>>>>>>> or suspiciously odd; curious" funny.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> So it sounded like you didn't understand why rich people "always"   
   >>>>>>>>>>> do well.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> It's because they have a lot of money.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Our alleged democracy   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> This isn't a democracy. Never has been. Perhaps your   
   >>>>>>>>>>> misunderstanding of our government is the source of your   
   >>>>>>>>>>> ignorance.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> What are the first three words in the Constitution, bubbles?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> What does that have to do with democracy, dumb shit? Do you even   
   >>>>>>>>> know what kind of government we have?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>             [crickets.wav]   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Yeah, didn't think so.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> What are the first three words of the Constitution, bubbles? It's not   
   >>>>>>>> a very hard question. Google it if you don't know.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Completely irrelevant.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The rest of the words very clearly demonstrate we're not a democracy.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Actually, there is very little difference between a republic and a   
   >>>>>> representative democracy.  Too many people look at a democracy as only   
   >>>>>> being a pure democracy, a direct democracy, etc to realize that there is   
   >>>>>> also a representative democracy.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It's not a representative democracy either.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 'Course it is. Ever hear of the House of Representatives?   
   >>>   
   >>> Yep. It's not a democracy. It was in all the papers.   
   >>>   
   >> Democracy: 1. Government by the people; government in which the supreme   
   >> power is retained by the people and exercised either directly   
   >> (*absolute* or *pure democracy*) or indirectly (*representative   
   >> democracy*) through a system of representation.   
   >>   
   >> 2. A community or state so governed.   
   >>   
   >> Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Fifth Edition, 1937.   
   >>   
   >> Yup, we're a democracy. It's in all the dictionaries.   
   >   
   > Nope. The people don't wield supreme power.   
   >   
   Then who does, in your estimable estimation?   
      
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