XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns   
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   On Sat, 18 May 2013 09:06:21 -0500, Tom McDonald wrote:   
      
   > On 5/18/2013 7:10 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 01:41:41 +0000 (UTC), Zepp  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 17:27:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 14:53:00 -0500, RD Sandman   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude  wrote in   
   >>>>> news:msucp8hn3utue1ujitm37me0hulmgdbdkq@4ax.com:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 17:20:43 +0000 (UTC), Zepp    
   >>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:16:09 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 15:10:26 +0000 (UTC), Zepp    
   >>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:37:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:31:32 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:29:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:28:56 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:17:42 -0600, deep wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:06:49 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You don't seem to understand the problem. Austerity at   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this time hurts Europe and it hurts the US. Austerity   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supporters have demonstrated their ignorance of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really, that ignorance of economics was there before   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the austerity measures were put into place to try and fix   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Austerity during a recession is one example of ignorance   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by political leaders. There's plenty of other nonsense   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that many political leaders believe, economic and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise. Reactionary leaders tend to believe the most   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem with austerity is it's only austerity for the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> poor and middle class.  The wealthy get to have an orgy of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rape of the national treasuries.  During periods of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "austerity" the top 1% keeps getting richer and richer   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> while the poor have to learn how to get by without things   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like food and medical care.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how the rich always do well.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how you can't figure out why that might be.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> I know why.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Do you really? Because you claimed it was "funny" and I'm   
   >>>>>>>>>> guessing you didn't think it was "ha ha" funny but that it was   
   >>>>>>>>>> "Strangely or suspiciously odd; curious" funny.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> So it sounded like you didn't understand why rich people   
   >>>>>>>>>> "always" do well.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> It's because they have a lot of money.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Our alleged democracy   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> This isn't a democracy. Never has been. Perhaps your   
   >>>>>>>>>> misunderstanding of our government is the source of your   
   >>>>>>>>>> ignorance.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> What are the first three words in the Constitution, bubbles?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> What does that have to do with democracy, dumb shit? Do you even   
   >>>>>>>> know what kind of government we have?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>            [crickets.wav]   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yeah, didn't think so.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> What are the first three words of the Constitution, bubbles? It's   
   >>>>>>> not a very hard question. Google it if you don't know.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Completely irrelevant.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The rest of the words very clearly demonstrate we're not a   
   >>>>>> democracy.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Actually, there is very little difference between a republic and a   
   >>>>> representative democracy.  Too many people look at a democracy as   
   >>>>> only being a pure democracy, a direct democracy, etc to realize that   
   >>>>> there is also a representative democracy.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It's not a representative democracy either.   
   >>>   
   >>> 'Course it is. Ever hear of the House of Representatives?   
   >>   
   >> Yep. It's not a democracy. It was in all the papers.   
   >>   
   > Democracy: 1. Government by the people; government in which the supreme   
   > power is retained by the people and exercised either directly   
   > (*absolute* or *pure democracy*) or indirectly (*representative   
   > democracy*) through a system of representation.   
   >   
   > 2. A community or state so governed.   
   >   
   > Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Fifth Edition, 1937.   
   >   
   > Yup, we're a democracy. It's in all the dictionaries.   
      
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