XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns
From: dead@gone.com
On Sat, 18 May 2013 09:20:04 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:07:09 -0500, RD Sandman
> wrote:
>
>>Klaus Schadenfreude wrote in
>>news:bpidp8hj63b1f98jo9t3uf05khtijovg27@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:11:42 +0000 (UTC), Zepp wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:52:24 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 17:20:43 +0000 (UTC), Zepp
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:16:09 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 15:10:26 +0000 (UTC), Zepp
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:37:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:31:32 -0500, Free Lunch
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:29:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:28:56 -0500, Free Lunch
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:17:42 -0600, deep wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:06:49 -0500, Free Lunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You don't seem to understand the problem. Austerity at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this time hurts Europe and it hurts the US. Austerity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supporters have demonstrated their ignorance of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Not really, that ignorance of economics was there before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the austerity measures were put into place to try and fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Austerity during a recession is one example of ignorance by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>political leaders. There's plenty of other nonsense that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>many political leaders believe, economic and otherwise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Reactionary leaders tend to believe the most nonsense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>The problem with austerity is it's only austerity for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>poor and middle class. The wealthy get to have an orgy of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>rape of the national treasuries. During periods of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"austerity" the top 1% keeps getting richer and richer while
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the poor have to learn how to get by without things like food
>>>>>>>>>>>>>and medical care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Funny how the rich always do well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Funny how you can't figure out why that might be.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I know why.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you really? Because you claimed it was "funny" and I'm
>>>>>>>>> guessing you didn't think it was "ha ha" funny but that it was
>>>>>>>>> "Strangely or suspiciously odd; curious" funny.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So it sounded like you didn't understand why rich people
>>>>>>>>> "always" do well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's because they have a lot of money.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Our alleged democracy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This isn't a democracy. Never has been. Perhaps your
>>>>>>>>> misunderstanding of our government is the source of your
>>>>>>>>> ignorance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What are the first three words in the Constitution, bubbles?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What does that have to do with democracy, dumb shit? Do you even
>>>>>>> know what kind of government we have?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [crickets.wav]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, didn't think so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What are the first three words of the Constitution, bubbles? It's
>>>>>>not a very hard question. Google it if you don't know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Completely irrelevant.
>>>>>
>>>>> The rest of the words very clearly demonstrate we're not a
>>>>> democracy.
>>>>>
>>>>> You didn't know that, did you?
>>>>>
>>>>> [chuckle]
>>>>
>>>>Define Democracy then, since quoting from the Constitution has proven
>>>>too much for you.
>>>
>>> Simple.
>>>
>>> Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens have
>>> an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives.
>>
>>Wrong. That is a pure or direct democracy. No one is arguing that is
>>what we have. There is also, however, a representative democracy which
>>is so close to what we have that you couldn't slip a dollar bill between
>>them.
>
> You may wish to read the following:
>
> An Important Distinction: Democracy versus Republic
From a nut ball site called "Lexrex". Amusingly, it starts with the first
three words from the Constitution that Klod can't bring himself to say in
these groups.
As for it's 'analysis' of the Constitution, here's the twelve segments
Lexrex has:
Part I: Twelve Basic American Principles:
Author's Prefatory Note regarding the Principles
1. The Spiritual is Supreme
2. Fear of Government-over-Man
3. Unalienable Rights--From God
4. Man Organizes Governments to Be His Tools
5. Limited Government
6. Decentralized Government
7. Equal, By God's Gift, In Sight of God and Law
8. Life and the Pursuit of Happiness
9. Liberty--Against Government-over-Man
10. Private Property--Liberty's Support
11. Taxes--Limited to Safeguard Liberty
12. The Majority--Limited for Liberty
"The Spiritual is Supreme"; that identifies the author has historically
illiterate right off the bat.
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