XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns   
   From: klausschadenfreude@yahoo.com   
      
   On Sat, 18 May 2013 17:27:39 +0000 (UTC), Zepp  wrote:   
      
   >On Sat, 18 May 2013 09:20:04 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:07:09 -0500, RD Sandman   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>Klaus Schadenfreude  wrote in   
   >>>news:bpidp8hj63b1f98jo9t3uf05khtijovg27@4ax.com:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:11:42 +0000 (UTC), Zepp  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:52:24 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 17:20:43 +0000 (UTC), Zepp    
   >>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:16:09 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 15:10:26 +0000 (UTC), Zepp    
   >>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:37:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:31:32 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:29:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude   
   >>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:28:56 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:17:42 -0600, deep wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:06:49 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You don't seem to understand the problem. Austerity at   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this time hurts Europe and it hurts the US. Austerity   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supporters have demonstrated their ignorance of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Not really, that ignorance of economics was there before   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the austerity measures were put into place to try and fix   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>them.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Austerity during a recession is one example of ignorance by   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>political leaders. There's plenty of other nonsense that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>many political leaders believe, economic and otherwise.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Reactionary leaders tend to believe the most nonsense.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>The problem with austerity is it's only austerity for the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>poor and middle class.  The wealthy get to have an orgy of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>rape of the national treasuries.  During periods of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>"austerity" the top 1% keeps getting richer and richer while   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>the poor have to learn how to get by without things like food   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>and medical care.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>Funny how the rich always do well.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>Funny how you can't figure out why that might be.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>I know why.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Do you really? Because you claimed it was "funny" and I'm   
   >>>>>>>>>> guessing you didn't think it was "ha ha" funny but that it was   
   >>>>>>>>>> "Strangely or suspiciously odd; curious" funny.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> So it sounded like you didn't understand why rich people   
   >>>>>>>>>> "always" do well.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> It's because they have a lot of money.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>Our alleged democracy   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> This isn't a democracy. Never has been. Perhaps your   
   >>>>>>>>>> misunderstanding of our government is the source of your   
   >>>>>>>>>> ignorance.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>What are the first three words in the Constitution, bubbles?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> What does that have to do with democracy, dumb shit? Do you even   
   >>>>>>>> know what kind of government we have?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>           [crickets.wav]   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yeah, didn't think so.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>What are the first three words of the Constitution, bubbles? It's   
   >>>>>>>not a very hard question. Google it if you don't know.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Completely irrelevant.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The rest of the words very clearly demonstrate we're not a   
   >>>>>> democracy.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You didn't know that, did you?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> [chuckle]   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Define Democracy then, since quoting from the Constitution has proven   
   >>>>>too much for you.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Simple.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens have   
   >>>> an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives.   
   >>>   
   >>>Wrong.  That is a pure or direct democracy.  No one is arguing that is   
   >>>what we have.  There is also, however, a representative democracy which   
   >>>is so close to what we have that you couldn't slip a dollar bill between   
   >>>them.   
   >>   
   >> You may wish to read the following:   
   >>   
   >> An Important Distinction: Democracy versus Republic   
   >   
   >From a nut ball site called "Lexrex". Amusingly, it starts with the first   
   >three words from the Constitution that Klod can't bring himself to say in   
   >these groups.   
      
   Why should I? They don't describe the kind of government we have.   
      
   Here is another nutball site:   
      
   Government type: Constitution-based federal republic; strong   
   democratic tradition   
      
   https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html   
      
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