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On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:04:30 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2013 17:27:39 +0000 (UTC), Zepp wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 18 May 2013 09:20:04 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:07:09 -0500, RD Sandman
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Klaus Schadenfreude wrote in
>>>>news:bpidp8hj63b1f98jo9t3uf05khtijovg27@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:11:42 +0000 (UTC), Zepp
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:52:24 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 17:20:43 +0000 (UTC), Zepp
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:16:09 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 15:10:26 +0000 (UTC), Zepp
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:37:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:31:32 -0500, Free Lunch
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:29:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:28:56 -0500, Free Lunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:17:42 -0600, deep wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:06:49 -0500, Free Lunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You don't seem to understand the problem. Austerity at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this time hurts Europe and it hurts the US. Austerity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supporters have demonstrated their ignorance of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Not really, that ignorance of economics was there before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the austerity measures were put into place to try and fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Austerity during a recession is one example of ignorance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by political leaders. There's plenty of other nonsense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that many political leaders believe, economic and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>otherwise. Reactionary leaders tend to believe the most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nonsense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The problem with austerity is it's only austerity for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>poor and middle class. The wealthy get to have an orgy of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rape of the national treasuries. During periods of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"austerity" the top 1% keeps getting richer and richer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>while the poor have to learn how to get by without things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>like food and medical care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Funny how the rich always do well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Funny how you can't figure out why that might be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I know why.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you really? Because you claimed it was "funny" and I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> guessing you didn't think it was "ha ha" funny but that it was
>>>>>>>>>>> "Strangely or suspiciously odd; curious" funny.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So it sounded like you didn't understand why rich people
>>>>>>>>>>> "always" do well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's because they have a lot of money.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Our alleged democracy
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't a democracy. Never has been. Perhaps your
>>>>>>>>>>> misunderstanding of our government is the source of your
>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>What are the first three words in the Constitution, bubbles?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What does that have to do with democracy, dumb shit? Do you even
>>>>>>>>> know what kind of government we have?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [crickets.wav]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, didn't think so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What are the first three words of the Constitution, bubbles? It's
>>>>>>>>not a very hard question. Google it if you don't know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Completely irrelevant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The rest of the words very clearly demonstrate we're not a
>>>>>>> democracy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You didn't know that, did you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [chuckle]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Define Democracy then, since quoting from the Constitution has
>>>>>>proven too much for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Simple.
>>>>>
>>>>> Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens
>>>>> have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives.
>>>>
>>>>Wrong. That is a pure or direct democracy. No one is arguing that is
>>>>what we have. There is also, however, a representative democracy
>>>>which is so close to what we have that you couldn't slip a dollar bill
>>>>between them.
>>>
>>> You may wish to read the following:
>>>
>>> An Important Distinction: Democracy versus Republic
>>
>>From a nut ball site called "Lexrex". Amusingly, it starts with the
>>first three words from the Constitution that Klod can't bring himself to
>>say in these groups.
>
> Why should I? They don't describe the kind of government we have.
>
> Here is another nutball site:
>
> Government type: Constitution-based federal republic; strong democratic
> tradition
>
> https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
Yup, and it agrees that the US is a democratic Republic.
Watching you try to debate is like watching a deer on ice.
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