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   Scout to Free Lunch   
   Re: #WHY THE IRS SCANDAL SHOULD LEAD TO    
   18 May 13 21:53:24   
   
   XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns   
   From: me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net   
      
   "Free Lunch"  wrote in message   
   news:mf1fp8draedm1m5hbgr4vpjkgc5hrb379c@4ax.com...   
   > On Sat, 18 May 2013 00:18:48 -0400, "Scout"   
   >  wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>"Free Lunch"  wrote in message   
   >>news:rpqdp85ridf1kvunnuo5bh3aqusdcf0loo@4ax.com...   
   >>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:41:40 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"Free Lunch"  wrote in message   
   >>>>news:aeecp8tfpnr4m4el4l74ego9a1nsqn6qen@4ax.com...   
   >>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:22:03 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>"RD Sandman"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>news:XnsA1C2C1C9EC638hopewell@216.196.121.131...   
   >>>>>>> Free Lunch  wrote in   
   >>>>>>> news:bnmap814vfj9j8elqps9adk83utebvjmmc@4ax.com:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 02:12:39 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>>  wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>"Zepp"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>news:kn1q41$knk$9@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 01:06:12 -0400, Scout wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> "Zepp"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>> news:kn1lji$knk$6@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 22:49:14 -0400, Scout wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> "%"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:RuSdnSUpfaALoQnMnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scout wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ba78p8tas9tjhvfghabbc3tedt9bmjvnpi@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 19:29:08 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:lh38p85kuemf4734npo38fm2kgpk4d0mpk@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional spending into that budget while he was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> President.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revenue shouldn't we calculate that entire amount added   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under Obama as deficit spending?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gee, and here I thought the budget was the responsiblity   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the House of Representatives.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when did The Executive write the budget?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When he fucking signs the bill into law.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After both houses of Congress have passed it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How long has it been since that happened?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every fucking time a spending bill becomes law.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And did occur when the $800 Billion in spending was added to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FY2008 budget with Obama's signature.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a president has to sign it wich other one would you like   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, and in the case of the $800 Billion added to the FY2008   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> budget...that President was Obama. Not because I like it, but   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> because he was the President that signed the legislation into   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> law.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> He signed the FY2008 budget in 2009.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> I see.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Tell us MORE, Scooty!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Why?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> You're not bothering to read what I wrote.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> What part of "ADDED TO" (emphasis added) do you think means he   
   >>>>>>>>>>> signed the original budget?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Well then, perhaps you could tell us how something he signed in   
   >>>>>>>>>> 2009   
   >>>>>>>>>> added to a budget that was over several months earlier.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>Ok..... real slowly. FY2008 runs between Sept 2008 and Sept 2009.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It runs between Oct 1, 2007 and Sept 30, 2008. I don't know why   
   >>>>>>>> they   
   >>>>>>>> use that convention.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>You will note that Obama took office in Jan 2009. If he signed   
   >>>>>>>>>spending legislation between Jan 2009 and Sept 2009 he could ADD   
   >>>>>>>>>more   
   >>>>>>>>>spending to the FY2008 budget. Which SOB is EXACTLY what he did. To   
   >>>>>>>>>the tune of $800 Billlion in additional deficit spending.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> He did add spending and foolishly added too many useless tax cuts   
   >>>>>>>> that   
   >>>>>>>> didn't help the economy.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> But not to the FY2008 FY which ended 9/30/08.  He took office under   
   >>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>> 2009FY budget.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Oops, and I kept saying FY2008.... my mistake. Should have been 2009.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Still doesn't alter that Obama is responsible for a major portion of   
   >>>>>>that   
   >>>>>>year's deficit.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>So congrats, they won at picking nits and ignoring the point being   
   >>>>>>made.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The point being that the additional $800 billion was too small and not   
   >>>>> spent fast enough and that too much of it was tax cuts for those who   
   >>>>> didn't need tax cuts.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Well to date he's spent over $6 Trillion in deficit spending....so when   
   >>>>exactly will it be enough?   
   >>>   
   >>> Most of that deficit is left over from Bush's foolish tax cuts and   
   >>> unfunded war spending.   
   >>   
   >>No, actually most of it's from Obama's excessive spending.   
   >>   
   > The nonexistent excessive spending.   
      
   Then you have no objections with Reagan's spending then?   
      
   Odd, I seem to recall you complaining about it just recently,.   
      
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