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"Free Lunch" wrote in message
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> On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:53:24 -0400, "Scout"
> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
>>
>>
>>"Free Lunch" wrote in message
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>>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 00:18:48 -0400, "Scout"
>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>
>>>>
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>>>>"Free Lunch" wrote in message
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>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:41:40 -0400, "Scout"
>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Free Lunch" wrote in message
>>>>>>news:aeecp8tfpnr4m4el4l74ego9a1nsqn6qen@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:22:03 -0400, "Scout"
>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"RD Sandman" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:XnsA1C2C1C9EC638hopewell@216.196.121.131...
>>>>>>>>> Free Lunch wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:bnmap814vfj9j8elqps9adk83utebvjmmc@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 02:12:39 -0400, "Scout"
>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Zepp" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>news:kn1q41$knk$9@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 01:06:12 -0400, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Zepp" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:kn1lji$knk$6@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 22:49:14 -0400, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "%" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:RuSdnSUpfaALoQnMnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ba78p8tas9tjhvfghabbc3tedt9bmjvnpi@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 19:29:08 -0400, "Scout"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:lh38p85kuemf4734npo38fm2kgpk4d0mpk@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional spending into that budget while he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> President.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revenue shouldn't we calculate that entire amount
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> added
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under Obama as deficit spending?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gee, and here I thought the budget was the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsiblity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the House of Representatives.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when did The Executive write the budget?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When he fucking signs the bill into law.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After both houses of Congress have passed it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How long has it been since that happened?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every fucking time a spending bill becomes law.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And did occur when the $800 Billion in spending was added
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FY2008 budget with Obama's signature.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a president has to sign it wich other one would you like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, and in the case of the $800 Billion added to the FY2008
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> budget...that President was Obama. Not because I like it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he was the President that signed the legislation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> law.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He signed the FY2008 budget in 2009.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell us MORE, Scooty!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're not bothering to read what I wrote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What part of "ADDED TO" (emphasis added) do you think means he
>>>>>>>>>>>>> signed the original budget?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well then, perhaps you could tell us how something he signed in
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009
>>>>>>>>>>>> added to a budget that was over several months earlier.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Ok..... real slowly. FY2008 runs between Sept 2008 and Sept 2009.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It runs between Oct 1, 2007 and Sept 30, 2008. I don't know why
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> use that convention.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>You will note that Obama took office in Jan 2009. If he signed
>>>>>>>>>>>spending legislation between Jan 2009 and Sept 2009 he could ADD
>>>>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>>>>spending to the FY2008 budget. Which SOB is EXACTLY what he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>To
>>>>>>>>>>>the tune of $800 Billlion in additional deficit spending.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He did add spending and foolishly added too many useless tax cuts
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> didn't help the economy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But not to the FY2008 FY which ended 9/30/08. He took office
>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> 2009FY budget.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Oops, and I kept saying FY2008.... my mistake. Should have been
>>>>>>>>2009.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Still doesn't alter that Obama is responsible for a major portion of
>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>year's deficit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So congrats, they won at picking nits and ignoring the point being
>>>>>>>>made.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The point being that the additional $800 billion was too small and
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> spent fast enough and that too much of it was tax cuts for those who
>>>>>>> didn't need tax cuts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well to date he's spent over $6 Trillion in deficit spending....so
>>>>>>when
>>>>>>exactly will it be enough?
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of that deficit is left over from Bush's foolish tax cuts and
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