XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns
From: klausschadenfreude@yahoo.com
On Sat, 18 May 2013 20:02:12 +0000 (UTC), Zepp wrote:
>On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:04:30 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 17:27:39 +0000 (UTC), Zepp wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 18 May 2013 09:20:04 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:07:09 -0500, RD Sandman
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Klaus Schadenfreude wrote in
>>>>>news:bpidp8hj63b1f98jo9t3uf05khtijovg27@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:11:42 +0000 (UTC), Zepp
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:52:24 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 17:20:43 +0000 (UTC), Zepp
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:16:09 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 15:10:26 +0000 (UTC), Zepp
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:37:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:31:32 -0500, Free Lunch
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:29:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:28:56 -0500, Free Lunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:17:42 -0600, deep wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:06:49 -0500, Free Lunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You don't seem to understand the problem. Austerity at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this time hurts Europe and it hurts the US. Austerity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supporters have demonstrated their ignorance of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Not really, that ignorance of economics was there before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the austerity measures were put into place to try and fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Austerity during a recession is one example of ignorance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by political leaders. There's plenty of other nonsense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that many political leaders believe, economic and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>otherwise. Reactionary leaders tend to believe the most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nonsense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The problem with austerity is it's only austerity for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>poor and middle class. The wealthy get to have an orgy of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rape of the national treasuries. During periods of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"austerity" the top 1% keeps getting richer and richer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>while the poor have to learn how to get by without things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>like food and medical care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Funny how the rich always do well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Funny how you can't figure out why that might be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I know why.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you really? Because you claimed it was "funny" and I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> guessing you didn't think it was "ha ha" funny but that it was
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Strangely or suspiciously odd; curious" funny.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So it sounded like you didn't understand why rich people
>>>>>>>>>>>> "always" do well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's because they have a lot of money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Our alleged democracy
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't a democracy. Never has been. Perhaps your
>>>>>>>>>>>> misunderstanding of our government is the source of your
>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>What are the first three words in the Constitution, bubbles?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What does that have to do with democracy, dumb shit? Do you even
>>>>>>>>>> know what kind of government we have?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [crickets.wav]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, didn't think so.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What are the first three words of the Constitution, bubbles? It's
>>>>>>>>>not a very hard question. Google it if you don't know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Completely irrelevant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The rest of the words very clearly demonstrate we're not a
>>>>>>>> democracy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You didn't know that, did you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [chuckle]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Define Democracy then, since quoting from the Constitution has
>>>>>>>proven too much for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Simple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens
>>>>>> have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wrong. That is a pure or direct democracy. No one is arguing that is
>>>>>what we have. There is also, however, a representative democracy
>>>>>which is so close to what we have that you couldn't slip a dollar bill
>>>>>between them.
>>>>
>>>> You may wish to read the following:
>>>>
>>>> An Important Distinction: Democracy versus Republic
>>>
>>>From a nut ball site called "Lexrex". Amusingly, it starts with the
>>>first three words from the Constitution that Klod can't bring himself to
>>>say in these groups.
>>
>> Why should I? They don't describe the kind of government we have.
>>
>> Here is another nutball site:
>>
>> Government type: Constitution-based federal republic; strong democratic
>> tradition
>>
>> https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
>
>Yup, and it agrees that the US is a democratic Republic.
No, it doesn't. Try reading it again.
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