XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns
From: klausschadenfreude@yahoo.com
On Sun, 19 May 2013 14:32:58 +0000 (UTC), Zepp wrote:
>On Sun, 19 May 2013 05:18:46 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 20:02:12 +0000 (UTC), Zepp wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:04:30 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 17:27:39 +0000 (UTC), Zepp wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 18 May 2013 09:20:04 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:07:09 -0500, RD Sandman
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Klaus Schadenfreude wrote in
>>>>>>>news:bpidp8hj63b1f98jo9t3uf05khtijovg27@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:11:42 +0000 (UTC), Zepp
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:52:24 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 17:20:43 +0000 (UTC), Zepp
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:16:09 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 15:10:26 +0000 (UTC), Zepp
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:37:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:31:32 -0500, Free Lunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:29:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:28:56 -0500, Free Lunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:17:42 -0600, deep wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:06:49 -0500, Free Lunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You don't seem to understand the problem. Austerity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at this time hurts Europe and it hurts the US.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Austerity supporters have demonstrated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance of economics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Not really, that ignorance of economics was there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>before the austerity measures were put into place to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>try and fix them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Austerity during a recession is one example of ignorance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by political leaders. There's plenty of other nonsense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that many political leaders believe, economic and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>otherwise. Reactionary leaders tend to believe the most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nonsense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The problem with austerity is it's only austerity for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>poor and middle class. The wealthy get to have an orgy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of rape of the national treasuries. During periods of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"austerity" the top 1% keeps getting richer and richer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>while the poor have to learn how to get by without things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>like food and medical care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Funny how the rich always do well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Funny how you can't figure out why that might be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I know why.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you really? Because you claimed it was "funny" and I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guessing you didn't think it was "ha ha" funny but that it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was "Strangely or suspiciously odd; curious" funny.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it sounded like you didn't understand why rich people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "always" do well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's because they have a lot of money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Our alleged democracy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't a democracy. Never has been. Perhaps your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> misunderstanding of our government is the source of your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>What are the first three words in the Constitution, bubbles?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What does that have to do with democracy, dumb shit? Do you
>>>>>>>>>>>> even know what kind of government we have?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [crickets.wav]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, didn't think so.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>What are the first three words of the Constitution, bubbles?
>>>>>>>>>>>It's not a very hard question. Google it if you don't know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Completely irrelevant.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The rest of the words very clearly demonstrate we're not a
>>>>>>>>>> democracy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You didn't know that, did you?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [chuckle]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Define Democracy then, since quoting from the Constitution has
>>>>>>>>>proven too much for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Simple.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens
>>>>>>>> have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wrong. That is a pure or direct democracy. No one is arguing that
>>>>>>>is what we have. There is also, however, a representative democracy
>>>>>>>which is so close to what we have that you couldn't slip a dollar
>>>>>>>bill between them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may wish to read the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An Important Distinction: Democracy versus Republic
>>>>>
>>>>>From a nut ball site called "Lexrex". Amusingly, it starts with the
>>>>>first three words from the Constitution that Klod can't bring himself
>>>>>to say in these groups.
>>>>
>>>> Why should I? They don't describe the kind of government we have.
>>>>
>>>> Here is another nutball site:
>>>>
>>>> Government type: Constitution-based federal republic; strong
>>>> democratic tradition
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/
>us.html
>>>
>>>Yup, and it agrees that the US is a democratic Republic.
>>
>> No, it doesn't. Try reading it again.
>
>This from a clown who is scared to death to recite the first three words
>of the Constitution.
This from the stoner who never got past the first three words before
he fell asleep.
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