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From: lunch@nofreelunch.us
On Sun, 19 May 2013 03:49:57 -0400, "Scout"
wrote in alt.atheism:
>
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>"Free Lunch" wrote in message
>news:hfjgp85rqvgip963lh11k0ic00iiaikrg5@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:53:24 -0400, "Scout"
>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Free Lunch" wrote in message
>>>news:mf1fp8draedm1m5hbgr4vpjkgc5hrb379c@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 00:18:48 -0400, "Scout"
>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Free Lunch" wrote in message
>>>>>news:rpqdp85ridf1kvunnuo5bh3aqusdcf0loo@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:41:40 -0400, "Scout"
>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Free Lunch" wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:aeecp8tfpnr4m4el4l74ego9a1nsqn6qen@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:22:03 -0400, "Scout"
>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"RD Sandman" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:XnsA1C2C1C9EC638hopewell@216.196.121.131...
>>>>>>>>>> Free Lunch wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:bnmap814vfj9j8elqps9adk83utebvjmmc@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 02:12:39 -0400, "Scout"
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Zepp" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>news:kn1q41$knk$9@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 01:06:12 -0400, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Zepp" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:kn1lji$knk$6@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 22:49:14 -0400, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "%" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:RuSdnSUpfaALoQnMnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ba78p8tas9tjhvfghabbc3tedt9bmjvnpi@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 19:29:08 -0400, "Scout"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:lh38p85kuemf4734npo38fm2kgpk4d0mpk@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional spending into that budget while he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> President.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revenue shouldn't we calculate that entire amount
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> added
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under Obama as deficit spending?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gee, and here I thought the budget was the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsiblity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the House of Representatives.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when did The Executive write the budget?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When he fucking signs the bill into law.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After both houses of Congress have passed it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How long has it been since that happened?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every fucking time a spending bill becomes law.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And did occur when the $800 Billion in spending was added
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FY2008 budget with Obama's signature.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a president has to sign it wich other one would you like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, and in the case of the $800 Billion added to the FY2008
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> budget...that President was Obama. Not because I like it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he was the President that signed the legislation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> law.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He signed the FY2008 budget in 2009.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell us MORE, Scooty!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're not bothering to read what I wrote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What part of "ADDED TO" (emphasis added) do you think means he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signed the original budget?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well then, perhaps you could tell us how something he signed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009
>>>>>>>>>>>>> added to a budget that was over several months earlier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Ok..... real slowly. FY2008 runs between Sept 2008 and Sept 2009.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It runs between Oct 1, 2007 and Sept 30, 2008. I don't know why
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> use that convention.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>You will note that Obama took office in Jan 2009. If he signed
>>>>>>>>>>>>spending legislation between Jan 2009 and Sept 2009 he could ADD
>>>>>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>>>>>spending to the FY2008 budget. Which SOB is EXACTLY what he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>To
>>>>>>>>>>>>the tune of $800 Billlion in additional deficit spending.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He did add spending and foolishly added too many useless tax cuts
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't help the economy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But not to the FY2008 FY which ended 9/30/08. He took office
>>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 2009FY budget.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Oops, and I kept saying FY2008.... my mistake. Should have been
>>>>>>>>>2009.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Still doesn't alter that Obama is responsible for a major portion of
>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>year's deficit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>So congrats, they won at picking nits and ignoring the point being
>>>>>>>>>made.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The point being that the additional $800 billion was too small and
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> spent fast enough and that too much of it was tax cuts for those who
>>>>>>>> didn't need tax cuts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well to date he's spent over $6 Trillion in deficit spending....so
>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>exactly will it be enough?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most of that deficit is left over from Bush's foolish tax cuts and
>>>>>> unfunded war spending.
>>>>>
>>>>>No, actually most of it's from Obama's excessive spending.
>>>>>
>>>> The nonexistent excessive spending.
>>>
>>>Then you have no objections with Reagan's spending then?
>>
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