XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns   
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   On Sun, 19 May 2013 07:52:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
      
   > On Sun, 19 May 2013 14:34:32 +0000 (UTC), Zepp wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Sun, 19 May 2013 05:18:12 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 20:23:24 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>> wrote:   
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   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>"Klaus Schadenfreude" wrote in message   
   >>>>news:lurep8dr9884gnqna5nrslp8sedgnfs44g@4ax.com...   
   >>>>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 01:34:21 +0000 (UTC), Zepp    
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 17:29:28 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:11:42 +0000 (UTC), Zepp    
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:52:24 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 17:20:43 +0000 (UTC), Zepp    
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:16:09 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 15:10:26 +0000 (UTC), Zepp    
   >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:37:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:31:32 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 07:29:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:28:56 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:17:42 -0600, deep wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>alt.atheism:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 09:06:49 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You don't seem to understand the problem. Austerity   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at this time hurts Europe and it hurts the US.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Austerity supporters have demonstrated their   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance of economics.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Not really, that ignorance of economics was there   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>before the austerity measures were put into place to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>try and fix them.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Austerity during a recession is one example of ignorance   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by political leaders. There's plenty of other nonsense   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that many political leaders believe, economic and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>otherwise. Reactionary leaders tend to believe the most   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nonsense.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The problem with austerity is it's only austerity for the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>poor and middle class. The wealthy get to have an orgy   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of rape of the national treasuries. During periods of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"austerity" the top 1% keeps getting richer and richer   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>while the poor have to learn how to get by without things   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>like food and medical care.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Funny how the rich always do well.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Funny how you can't figure out why that might be.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I know why.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you really? Because you claimed it was "funny" and I'm   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> guessing you didn't think it was "ha ha" funny but that it   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> was "Strangely or suspiciously odd; curious" funny.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> So it sounded like you didn't understand why rich people   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> "always" do well.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's because they have a lot of money.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Our alleged democracy   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't a democracy. Never has been. Perhaps your   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> misunderstanding of our government is the source of your   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>What are the first three words in the Constitution, bubbles?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> What does that have to do with democracy, dumb shit? Do you   
   >>>>>>>>>>> even know what kind of government we have?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> [crickets.wav]   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, didn't think so.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>What are the first three words of the Constitution, bubbles?   
   >>>>>>>>>>It's not a very hard question. Google it if you don't know.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Completely irrelevant.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> The rest of the words very clearly demonstrate we're not a   
   >>>>>>>>> democracy.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You didn't know that, did you?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> [chuckle]   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Define Democracy then, since quoting from the Constitution has   
   >>>>>>>>proven too much for you.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Simple.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens   
   >>>>>>> have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Bzzzt! Wrong! Try again.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> LOL.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Sorry it's not what you thought it was.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Even if it were, we still wouldn't be a Democracy, since a person in   
   >>>>say Iowa has more political 'clout' in the federal government than say   
   >>>>a person living in NY.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Further that is FULLY INTENTIONAL.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Thus by his own standards the US was not designed to be a Democracy   
   >>>>nor is it one today.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>> Well, he *is* from Canada, after all.   
   >>   
   >>And know far more about American government and history than you do.   
   >   
   > BWAH ha ha ha hah a ha hah a ha ha ha ha hah a--   
   >   
   > Oh.   
   >   
   > You're serious.   
      
   Yes. I am.   
      
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