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   >measured.  As I noted, Bush only had two years out of eight where that   
   >was even close.   
      
   I had said debt increases. You forget that most of his war spending was   
   "off budget".   
   >   
   > Of course if you net that we don't have a $16.7T   
   >> debt right now, either.   
   >>   
   >> 05/16/2013:   
   >>   
   >> Current   
   >> Debt Held by the Public                11,867,088,850,551.92   
   >>   
   >> Intragovernmental Holdings             4,867,719,794,096.15   
   >>   
   >> Total Public Debt Outstanding           16,734,808,644,648.07   
   >>   
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