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   On Tue, 21 May 2013 21:22:42 -0700, Jason wrote:   
      
   > In article , Tom McDonald   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 5/21/2013 9:41 PM, RD Sandman wrote:   
   >> > Tom McDonald  wrote in   
   >> > news:reUmt.11860$v46.8618@newsfe13.iad:   
   >> >   
   >> >> On 5/21/2013 7:17 PM, Jason wrote:   
   >>   
   >>    
   >>   
   >> >>> Good point. I hope they have a congressional investigation about   
   >> >>> the AP scandal. It's just as serious as the IRS scandal.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> Someone should write letters to Holder and Obama and remind them   
   >> >>> that the constitution mentions freedom of the press. Perhaps they   
   >> >>> have forgotten about what they learned about the constitution.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>>   
   >> >> Your problem there is that your guy, Bush2, pushed through the laws   
   >> >> that make what happened to the AP entirely legal. You knew that it   
   >> >> was legal, right?   
   >> >   
   >> > So I assume your take is that since Bush did it, it makes it alright   
   >> > for Obama to do it?   No chance that both of them are wrong?   
   >> >   
   >> No, my take is that just about all of the laws passed in the hysteria   
   >> about terrorism, especially those that restrict constitutional rights,   
   >> are wrong, cowardly and un-American. This is an example of how we gave   
   >> up freedom for almost-certainly-illusory security.   
   >>   
   >> Whether it's a Democratic or a Republican administration doing it, I   
   >> think it's wrong. Period.   
   >   
   > Do you agree that Holder violated the constitution when he forced the AP   
   > to give the federal government their phone records? yes or no   
      
   He didn't force AP to do anything.  He just simply took the records   
   without subpoena or AP's knowledge.   
      
   And yes, I think he violated the Constitution.   
      
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