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   On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:00:19 -0400, Scout wrote:   
      
   > "Jeanne Douglas"  wrote in message   
   > news:hlwdjsd2-D69B60.23074821052013@news.giganews.com...   
   >> In article , Zepp  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 20:40:54 -0700, Jeanne Douglas wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> > In article ,   
   >>> >  Tom McDonald  wrote:   
   >>> >   
   >>> >> On 5/21/2013 9:41 PM, RD Sandman wrote:   
   >>> >> > Tom McDonald  wrote in   
   >>> >> > news:reUmt.11860$v46.8618@newsfe13.iad:   
   >>> >> >   
   >>> >> >> On 5/21/2013 7:17 PM, Jason wrote:   
   >>> >>   
   >>> >>    
   >>> >>   
   >>> >> >>> Good point. I hope they have a congressional investigation   
   >>> >> >>> about the AP scandal. It's just as serious as the IRS scandal.   
   >>> >> >>>   
   >>> >> >>> Someone should write letters to Holder and Obama and remind   
   >>> >> >>> them that the constitution mentions freedom of the press.   
   >>> >> >>> Perhaps they have forgotten about what they learned about the   
   >>> >> >>> constitution.   
   >>> >> >>>   
   >>> >> >>>   
   >>> >> >> Your problem there is that your guy, Bush2, pushed through the   
   >>> >> >> laws that make what happened to the AP entirely legal. You knew   
   >>> >> >> that it was legal, right?   
   >>> >> >   
   >>> >> > So I assume your take is that since Bush did it, it makes it   
   >>> >> > alright for Obama to do it?   No chance that both of them are   
   >>> >> > wrong?   
   >>> >> >   
   >>> >> No, my take is that just about all of the laws passed in the   
   >>> >> hysteria about terrorism, especially those that restrict   
   >>> >> constitutional rights,   
   >>> >> are wrong, cowardly and un-American. This is an example of how we   
   >>> >> gave up freedom for almost-certainly-illusory security.   
   >>> >>   
   >>> >> Whether it's a Democratic or a Republican administration doing it,   
   >>> >> I think it's wrong. Period.   
   >>> >   
   >>> > And the Patriot Act really needs to be repealed.   
   >>>   
   >>> Absolutely.   
   >>   
   >> But it's been in effect for, what 11-12 years already. So I have no   
   >> sympathy for anybody just discovering how vile it is now that we have a   
   >> black President.   
   >   
   > A moment ago you were telling us how what was done doesn't matter   
   > because it was legal....now you're saying it was vile.   
      
   Don't tell me you're foolish enough to confuse legality with justice.   
   >   
   > Maybe you should make up your mind and stick to it.   
   >   
   > Apparently now that we have a black President, you're all for it.   
      
   Oh, right.  You have no ethics of your own.   
      
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