XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, talk.politics.guns   
   From: me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net   
      
   "Jeanne Douglas"  wrote in message   
   news:hlwdjsd2-CFE2C0.19113122052013@news.giganews.com...   
   > In article <8C5nt.3601$Ju6.1745@newsfe22.iad>,   
   > Tom McDonald  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 5/21/2013 11:22 PM, Jason wrote:   
   >> > In article , Tom McDonald   
   >> >  wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> >> On 5/21/2013 9:41 PM, RD Sandman wrote:   
   >> >>> Tom McDonald  wrote in   
   >> >>> news:reUmt.11860$v46.8618@newsfe13.iad:   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>>> On 5/21/2013 7:17 PM, Jason wrote:   
   >> >>   
   >> >>    
   >> >>   
   >> >>>>> Good point. I hope they have a congressional investigation about   
   >> >>>>> the   
   >> >>>>> AP scandal. It's just as serious as the IRS scandal.   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>> Someone should write letters to Holder and Obama and remind them   
   >> >>>>> that   
   >> >>>>> the constitution mentions freedom of the press. Perhaps they have   
   >> >>>>> forgotten about what they learned about the constitution.   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>> Your problem there is that your guy, Bush2, pushed through the laws   
   >> >>>> that make what happened to the AP entirely legal. You knew that it   
   >> >>>> was   
   >> >>>> legal, right?   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> So I assume your take is that since Bush did it, it makes it alright   
   >> >>> for   
   >> >>> Obama to do it?   No chance that both of them are wrong?   
   >> >>>   
   >> >> No, my take is that just about all of the laws passed in the hysteria   
   >> >> about terrorism, especially those that restrict constitutional rights,   
   >> >> are wrong, cowardly and un-American. This is an example of how we gave   
   >> >> up freedom for almost-certainly-illusory security.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Whether it's a Democratic or a Republican administration doing it, I   
   >> >> think it's wrong. Period.   
   >> >   
   >> > Do you agree that Holder violated the constitution when he forced the   
   >> > AP   
   >> > to give the federal government their phone records? yes or no   
   >> >   
   >> >   
   >> First, do you think the Patriot Act provision under which this was made   
   >> legal is constitutional? Yes or no.   
   >   
   > Until the courts say it's unconstitutional, it IS constitutional.   
      
   Sorry, but Unconstitutionality dates from it's enactment...not when the   
   courts rule it as such.   
      
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