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   On Sat, 25 May 2013 14:29:27 -0500, RD Sandman wrote:   
      
   > Jeanne Douglas wrote in   
   > news:hlwdjsd2-E96C05.22033024052013@news.giganews.com:   
   >   
   >> In article   
   >> ,   
   >> Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> In article , "Scout"   
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> > "Jeanne Douglas" wrote in message   
   >>> > news:hlwdjsd2-689AED.03052124052013@news.giganews.com...   
   >>> > > In article   
   >>> > > ,   
   >>> > > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:   
   >>> > >   
   >>> > >> In article ,   
   >>> > >> Jeanne Douglas wrote:   
   >>> > >>   
   >>> > >> > In article   
   >>> > >> > ,   
   >>> > >> > Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:   
   >>> > >> >   
   >>> > >> > > In article , Zepp   
   >>> > >> > > wrote:   
   >>> > >> > >   
   >>> > >> > > > On Thu, 23 May 2013 16:47:15 -0700, Jason wrote:   
   >>> > >> > > >   
   >>> > >> > > > > In article , Zepp   
   >>> > >> > > > > wrote:   
   >>> > >> > > > >   
   >>> > >> > > > >> On Thu, 23 May 2013 00:53:05 -0700, Jason wrote:   
   >>> > >> > > > >>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> > In article , Zepp   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >    
   >>> > >> > > > >> > wrote:   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> On Wed, 22 May 2013 18:13:29 -0700, Jason wrote:   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> > In article , "Scout"   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> > wrote:   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> "Klaus Schadenfreude"   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >>    
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> wrote in message   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> news:5mdpp81tqd0aml6jajng09vmqik7mnc9ik@4ax.com...   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> > On Tue, 21 May 2013 15:54:15 +0000 (UTC), Zepp   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >    
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> > wrote:   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>On Tue, 21 May 2013 05:04:02 -0700, Klaus   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>> On Mon, 20 May 2013 14:59:44 +0000 (UTC),   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>> Zepp    
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>> wrote:   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>On Mon, 20 May 2013 07:03:14 -0700, Klaus   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>> On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:44:31 +0000 (UTC),   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>> Zepp    
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>> wrote:   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>On Mon, 20 May 2013 04:55:49 -0700, Klaus   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>> On Sun, 19 May 2013 18:48:20 +0000 (UTC),   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>> Zepp    
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>Three little words, Klod.   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Two words. Constitutional Republic.   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>No disputing that. And also a   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>representative democracy.   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>> Nope. And that you're too stupid to   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>> understand the difference is telling.   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>>Three little words, Klod.   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>> Two words. Constitutional Republic.   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>>Three little words, Klod.   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>> "You're my bitch."   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>> [chuckle]   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>Yes, we know what your vision for America is.   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> > Oh, pray, favor us with your opinion.   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>Now: what does the Constitution say?   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> > That's easy. The Constitution describes how our   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> > government is set up and functions. I can go   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> > into more detail when you're sober.   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> >   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> > Um, you didn't know that?   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> How could he when he seems unable to make it past   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> the first three words.   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> Indeed it's not even clear if he knows what they   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> are since he has to keep asking for someone to   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >> tell them what they are.   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> >>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> > WE, THE PEOPLE   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> Yup. Poor old Klod can't bring himself to admit   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> that, though.   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> It's been pretty funny chasing him around with it,   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> though.   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> So. there is the statement of intent for the   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> constitution, and it is formed by "We, the People".   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> Establishing that the People are sovereign in   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> America. Not the government, certainly no church,   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> and no aristocracy. The People.   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >> With me so far?   
   >>> > >> > > > >> >   
   >>> > >> > > > >> > You may want to inform Holder that he must abide by   
   >>> > >> > > > >> > the 4th Amendment.   
   >>> > >> > > > >> > He recently violated the 4th Amendment by tapping the   
   >>> > >> > > > >> > phone lines of various AP reporters.   
   >>> > >> > > > >>   
   >>> > >> > > > >> Not according to your beloved Patriot Act.   
   >>> > >> > > > >   
   >>> > >> > > > > Which is more important to you? The Patriot Act or the   
   >>> > >> > > > > Constitution.   
   >>> > >> > > > >   
   >>> > >> > > > > We both know how Holder would answer that question. He   
   >>> > >> > > > > would choose the Patriot Act as his answer.   
   >>> > >> > > >   
   >>> > >> > > > He might. I don't see many Republicans speaking out   
   >>> > >> > > > against it: the Pauls, and that's about it.   
   >>> > >> > >   
      
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