XPost: alt.society.liberalism, can.politics, talk.politics.guns   
   From: davidjohnston29@block.com   
      
   On 6/4/2013 5:16 PM, SaPeIsMa wrote:   
   > "David Johnston"  wrote in message   
   > news:koifd3$osj$1@dont-email.me...   
   >> On 6/3/2013 9:35 AM, SaPeIsMa wrote:   
   >>> "David Johnston"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:koi70c$2h0$2@dont-email.me...   
   >>>> On 6/3/2013 6:11 AM, SaPeIsMa wrote:   
   >>>>> "David Johnston"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:kofmi3$ufv$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>> On 6/1/2013 10:42 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Why This Scandal Is Different   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Peggy Noonan   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Sometimes when you’re writing part of a column you keep getting   
   >>>>>>> close   
   >>>>>>> to the meaning of what you want to say but you don’t quite get   
   >>>>>>> there,   
   >>>>>>> the full formulation of the idea eludes you. Then two days later,   
   >>>>>>> relaxing in conversation with friends, the thought comes to you   
   >>>>>>> whole,   
   >>>>>>> and you think: That’s what I meant to say. That’s what I was   
   >>>>>>> trying to   
   >>>>>>> get.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> This week I had one of those moments. I kept trying, the paragraph   
   >>>>>>> kept not quite working, the deadline came.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I got an email last night that had the effect of a clarifying   
   >>>>>>> conversation. It was from a smart friend who works in government. He   
   >>>>>>> understood the point I was trying to make about how the current IRS   
   >>>>>>> scandal is different from previous ones and more threatening to the   
   >>>>>>> American arrangement. I had written that this scandal isn’t a   
   >>>>>>> discrete   
   >>>>>>> event in which a president picks up a phone and tells someone in the   
   >>>>>>> White House to look into the finances of some steel industry   
   >>>>>>> executives, or to check out the returns of some guy on an enemies   
   >>>>>>> list.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> But my friend got to the essence. He wrote, “The left likes to say,   
   >>>>>>> ‘Watergate was worse!’ Watergate was bad—don’t get me wrong. But it   
   >>>>>>> was elites using the machinery of government to spy on elites. . . .   
   >>>>>>> It’s something quite different when elites use the machinery of   
   >>>>>>> government against ordinary people. It’s a whole different ball   
   >>>>>>>  game.”   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Ordinary people?  What ordinary people are we talking about?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> As opposed to the elites   
   >>>>>     Can't you even read a simple text for comprehension ?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I wasn't asking for a definition of "ordinary".  I was asking what   
   >>>> ordinary people were having the machinery of government used against   
   >>>> them in this case.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> The ordinary people who tried to form groups and applied to the IRS for   
   >>> legal purposes and where then (way) over investigated and had their   
   >>> applications delayed for years   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> What gives you the idea that those were ordinary people rather than   
   >> the "elite"?   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > What gives you the idea that they are not   
      
   The fact that they registered their political organizations as 501 c 4   
   apolitical organizations to hide their identities.  So I'm thinking   
   people with deep pockets, slick lawyers and worries about media   
   coverage.  It's not a "grass-roots movement" approach   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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