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   From: SaPeIsMa@gmail.com   
      
   "David Johnston" wrote in message   
   news:kom15m$p2q$1@dont-email.me...   
   > On 6/4/2013 5:16 PM, SaPeIsMa wrote:   
   >> "David Johnston" wrote in message   
   >> news:koifd3$osj$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>> On 6/3/2013 9:35 AM, SaPeIsMa wrote:   
   >>>> "David Johnston" wrote in message   
   >>>> news:koi70c$2h0$2@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>> On 6/3/2013 6:11 AM, SaPeIsMa wrote:   
   >>>>>> "David Johnston" wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:kofmi3$ufv$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>> On 6/1/2013 10:42 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Why This Scandal Is Different   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Peggy Noonan   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Sometimes when you’re writing part of a column you keep getting   
   >>>>>>>> close   
   >>>>>>>> to the meaning of what you want to say but you don’t quite get   
   >>>>>>>> there,   
   >>>>>>>> the full formulation of the idea eludes you. Then two days later,   
   >>>>>>>> relaxing in conversation with friends, the thought comes to you   
   >>>>>>>> whole,   
   >>>>>>>> and you think: That’s what I meant to say. That’s what I was   
   >>>>>>>> trying to   
   >>>>>>>> get.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> This week I had one of those moments. I kept trying, the paragraph   
   >>>>>>>> kept not quite working, the deadline came.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I got an email last night that had the effect of a clarifying   
   >>>>>>>> conversation. It was from a smart friend who works in government.   
   >>>>>>>> He   
   >>>>>>>> understood the point I was trying to make about how the current IRS   
   >>>>>>>> scandal is different from previous ones and more threatening to the   
   >>>>>>>> American arrangement. I had written that this scandal isn’t a   
   >>>>>>>> discrete   
   >>>>>>>> event in which a president picks up a phone and tells someone in   
   >>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>> White House to look into the finances of some steel industry   
   >>>>>>>> executives, or to check out the returns of some guy on an enemies   
   >>>>>>>> list.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> But my friend got to the essence. He wrote, “The left likes to say,   
   >>>>>>>> ‘Watergate was worse!’ Watergate was bad—don’t get me wrong. But it   
   >>>>>>>> was elites using the machinery of government to spy on elites. . .   
   >>>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>> It’s something quite different when elites use the machinery of   
   >>>>>>>> government against ordinary people. It’s a whole different ball   
   >>>>>>>> game.”   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Ordinary people? What ordinary people are we talking about?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> As opposed to the elites   
   >>>>>> Can't you even read a simple text for comprehension ?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I wasn't asking for a definition of "ordinary". I was asking what   
   >>>>> ordinary people were having the machinery of government used against   
   >>>>> them in this case.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The ordinary people who tried to form groups and applied to the IRS for   
   >>>> legal purposes and where then (way) over investigated and had their   
   >>>> applications delayed for years   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> What gives you the idea that those were ordinary people rather than   
   >>> the "elite"?   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> What gives you the idea that they are not   
   >   
   > The fact that they registered their political organizations as 501 c 4   
   > apolitical organizations to hide their identities.   
      
      
   HUH ?   
    Are you really this stump ignorant ?   
   Those registration documents are public record.   
      
      
      
   > So I'm thinking people with deep pockets, slick lawyers and worries about   
   > media coverage. It's not a "grass-roots movement" approach   
      
   Funny how you don't spout that ignorant shit about pinkies who do EXACTLY   
   THE SAME THING   
    The word hypocrite fits you well.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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