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From: SaPeIsMa@gmail.com
"David Johnston" wrote in message
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> On 6/4/2013 8:29 PM, SaPeIsMa wrote:
>> "David Johnston" wrote in message
>> news:kom15m$p2q$1@dont-email.me...
>>> On 6/4/2013 5:16 PM, SaPeIsMa wrote:
>>>> "David Johnston" wrote in message
>>>> news:koifd3$osj$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 6/3/2013 9:35 AM, SaPeIsMa wrote:
>>>>>> "David Johnston" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:koi70c$2h0$2@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>> On 6/3/2013 6:11 AM, SaPeIsMa wrote:
>>>>>>>> "David Johnston" wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:kofmi3$ufv$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>> On 6/1/2013 10:42 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Why This Scandal Is Different
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Peggy Noonan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes when you’re writing part of a column you keep getting
>>>>>>>>>> close
>>>>>>>>>> to the meaning of what you want to say but you don’t quite get
>>>>>>>>>> there,
>>>>>>>>>> the full formulation of the idea eludes you. Then two days later,
>>>>>>>>>> relaxing in conversation with friends, the thought comes to you
>>>>>>>>>> whole,
>>>>>>>>>> and you think: That’s what I meant to say. That’s what I was
>>>>>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>>>>>> get.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This week I had one of those moments. I kept trying, the
>>>>>>>>>> paragraph
>>>>>>>>>> kept not quite working, the deadline came.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I got an email last night that had the effect of a clarifying
>>>>>>>>>> conversation. It was from a smart friend who works in
>>>>>>>>>> government. He
>>>>>>>>>> understood the point I was trying to make about how the current
>>>>>>>>>> IRS
>>>>>>>>>> scandal is different from previous ones and more threatening to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> American arrangement. I had written that this scandal isn’t a
>>>>>>>>>> discrete
>>>>>>>>>> event in which a president picks up a phone and tells someone
>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>> White House to look into the finances of some steel industry
>>>>>>>>>> executives, or to check out the returns of some guy on an enemies
>>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But my friend got to the essence. He wrote, “The left likes to
>>>>>>>>>> say,
>>>>>>>>>> ‘Watergate was worse!’ Watergate was bad—don’t get me wrong.
>>>>>>>>>> But it
>>>>>>>>>> was elites using the machinery of government to spy on elites.
>>>>>>>>>> . . .
>>>>>>>>>> It’s something quite different when elites use the machinery of
>>>>>>>>>> government against ordinary people. It’s a whole different ball
>>>>>>>>>> game.”
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ordinary people? What ordinary people are we talking about?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As opposed to the elites
>>>>>>>> Can't you even read a simple text for comprehension ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wasn't asking for a definition of "ordinary". I was asking what
>>>>>>> ordinary people were having the machinery of government used against
>>>>>>> them in this case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ordinary people who tried to form groups and applied to the IRS
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> legal purposes and where then (way) over investigated and had their
>>>>>> applications delayed for years
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What gives you the idea that those were ordinary people rather than
>>>>> the "elite"?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What gives you the idea that they are not
>>>
>>> The fact that they registered their political organizations as 501 c 4
>>> apolitical organizations to hide their identities.
>>
>>
>> HUH ?
>> Are you really this stump ignorant ?
>> Those registration documents are public record.
>
> The donors are not public record. That's what the dispute is about, as I
> understand it.
>
No
That is NOT what the dispute is about..
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