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   Kurt Nicklas to Yoor...@Jurgis.net   
   'Usenet Village Idiot' Roselles runs fro   
   29 Jul 13 15:03:27   
   
   From: kurtnicklas@gmail.com   
      
   On Monday, July 29, 2013 5:47:28 PM UTC-4, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:   
   > On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:11:24 -0400, Kurt Nicklas    
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   > >In article ,   
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   > >Yoorghis@Jurgis.net says...   
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   > >> >Now....want to "debate" if Stalin or Lenin were 'conservative'?   
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   > >> Go ahead and list the major characteristics of rightwing wing and   
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   > >> conservative political ideology, you stupid fuckwit   
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   > >Here's a list of the major tenets of conservatism from 'Human Events,   
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   > >Tin Can:   
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   > Oh, I thought you were going to be serious.   
      
   I am. You're not.   
      
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   > How's about listing the major conservative tenets as PRACTICED by   
   > conservatives, you dimwitted moron   
      
   I did. And you can't deal with it, can you?   
      
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   > And,, fer chrissakes, "Human Events"   
      
   What better place to find a list of conservative principles?   
      
   Or would you prefer we refer to back issues of your posts?   
      
   Oh, that's right.....you hide them, don't you?   
      
      
      
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   > That's like citing "My Struggle"   
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   > >1. God?s Law Governs Nations as Well as Men.   
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   > So--how did "gods law" govern under R.E.Lee the slaver, the   
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   > liars-in-chief Nixon, Raygun, Bush, several dozen racist governors,   
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   > and thousands of southern conservative state legislators?   
      
   You were defending your crackpot idea of Stalin being a conservative.   
      
   Can you do that or will you run away from it once again?   
      
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   > >2. Life Is the First God-Given Right   
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   > >It?s always wrong to deliberately take an innocent human life.   
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   > Would that include lying us into war killing 6,000, wounding/maiming   
   > 40,000 others?   
      
   Stalin as a conservative? Remember? Can you defend your numskull ideas?   
      
      
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   > >3. Marriage and Family Come Before the State and Deserve Its Protection   
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   > >The marriage of one man and one woman is the natural foundation of all   
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   > >human society,   
   > Why?   
      
   Stalin. Gonna run from your claims AGAIN, Tin Can Sailor?   
      
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   > >4. Freedom of Conscience is the Soul of Liberty   
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   > Thus negating the aformentioned tenet   
      
   Did Stalin believe in freedom of conscience, LHS Graduate?   
      
   Hmmmmm?   
      
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   > >5. Private Property is the Servant of Freedom   
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   > >The more that individuals, families and businesses can acquire and   
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   > >control the goods necessary to sustain and advance themselves, the more   
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   > >autonomy they will have from the state   
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   > That only serves those who control wealth and power.  In PRACTICE,   
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   > that has served to engender slavery, exploitation of workers, bad   
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   > business practices, bad products, dangerous working conditions....   
      
   Did Stalin believe in this principle, Gary Richard?   
      
      
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   > >6. Government Dependency is the Seed of Tyranny   
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   > >The more that individuals, families and businesses are dependent on the   
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   > >state for the goods necessary to sustain and advance themselves, the   
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   > >less autonomy they will have from the state and others who may wish to   
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   > >unjustly restrict their freedom.   
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   > I see.  So the lessons learned from (say) 1870-1935 should be   
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   > pretended not to have some basis for existing?   
      
   That's a laughable sentence, Seaman. Something I'd expect from   
   the Usenet Village Idiot.   
      
   > You did know that the   
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   > major horrible conditions in America during that era was pretty bad,   
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   > right, Knickkkers?   
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   > >7. The Constitution Means What It Says   
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   > BWHAHAHAHAHA   
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   > The constitution "means" what the USSC says----NO ONE ELSE   
      
   Did Stalin believe in the principle of the Bill of Rights?   
      
      
      
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   > >8. Taxes Are Justified Only to Fund Necessary Government Spending   
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   > >A massive and complex tax code has become a powerful weapon...   
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   > And Rightly so.  The use of a tax code to channel economic behavior   
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   > and modify the greedy, self-serving goals of a wealth and entitled   
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   > class was one of the best things that created the huge middle class in   
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   > America.   
      
   Was Stalin against burdensome taxes, you pinheaded, knuckledragging moron?   
      
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   > >9. National Defense Is Just That   
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   > How did Grenada require us to attack it?   
      
   Did Stalin have conservative attitudes about national defense?   
      
      
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   > >10. We Should Strive to Give Our Children a Better Country   
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   > Because of PROGRESSIVES and LIBERALS---that has been the model that   
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   > has done just that   
      
   Was Stalin a conservative, Seaman?   
      
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   > Poor Knicklas---You cannot name a single policy, program, goal in the   
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   > last 160 years that Conservatism/loonytarianism EVER came up with that   
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   > made America stronger economically or better socially.   
      
   Irrelevant to the debate.   
      
   You offered to defend your loony idea that Stalin et al were conservatives   
      
   I'm thinking that everyone is laughing at you again for running away from your   
   claims. Everything you've posted here has been a retreat and attempt to   
   distract from the "debate" you yourself asked for.   
      
   Thanks for letting me prove once again you are the champion moron in these   
   groups.   
      
   You're a coward, Gary. A yellow coward.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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