XPost: alt.society.liberalism, talk.politics.guns   
   From: matttelles@sprynet.com   
      
   slate_leeper  wrote in   
   news:4he9i8d4196ui9csmd96tvlgnqibbqegva@4ax.com:   
      
   > On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 02:03:11 +0000 (UTC), Matt   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >>slate_leeper  wrote in   
   >>news:f757i8dk6e3mu1fh93evt7fntut2bjadup@4ax.com:   
   >>   
   >>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:55:03 +0000 (UTC), Matt   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>slate_leeper  wrote in   
   >>>>news:ou54i8l8ivh4uft106m97c9ueuqj81r41r@4ax.com:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 15:26:42 +0000 (UTC), Matt   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Anyway, the facts are incontestable: increasing numbers of guns   
   in   
   >>>>the   
   >>>>>>> US and increasing numbers of  CCW holders carrying concealed,   
   >>WHILE   
   >>>>>>> crime and homicide rates drop to near-record low levels.   
   Obviously   
   >>>>all   
   >>>>>>> those people carrying lawful firearms are not adding to the   
   >>problem.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Yeah, ok. Obvioulsly.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Tell that to the folk of Sandy Hook, Chicago, LA, Oakland, Miami   
   ...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Incidents are not data points and can not be used as indications   
   of   
   >>a   
   >>>>> trend.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>No? Um, ok, I'll bite, why not?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> My paragraph above shows the trends, and is based on verifiable   
   >>facts.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>And your verifiable facts are made up of .. what again?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Matt   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Sales numbers of firearms in the US: BATF figures.   
   >>   
   >>Sales numbers now make up some sort of defensive gun usage?   
   >>   
   >>Wow. There's a thought.   
   >>   
   >>Okay then.   
   >>   
   >>Matt   
   >   
   >   
   > I can't believe your disingenuous attempted deceptiveness.   
      
   Wow. Was that English?   
      
   Matt   
      
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