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From: kurtnicklas@gmail.com
On Feb 20, 6:17 pm, Matt wrote:
> RD Sandman wrote innews:XnsA16
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> > Matt wrote in
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> >> RD Sandman wrote in
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> >>> Matt wrote in
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> >>>> RD Sandman wrote in
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> >>>>> "Oglethorpe" wrote in
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> >>>>>> "Matt" wrote in message
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> >>>>>> If someone goes to a surrounding state to avoid the laws in
> >>>>>> their
> >>>>>>> state of residence, they cannot LEGALLY purchase a firearm The
> >>>>>>> reason a dealer asks for a driver's license photo ID is to check
> >> if
> >>>>>>> the purchaser is a resident of the state. If not, then an FFL
> >> (by
> >>>>>>> federal law) must be involved from the purchaser's home state.
> >> That
> >>>>>>> FFL will run a background check on the purchaser and ensure that
> >> the
> >>>>>>> transaction meets all applicable laws in the state of residence.
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> >>>>>> Right. Like Laughner, right?
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> >>>>>> You can't even spell his name right. So why should we care what
> >>>>>> you "think"? Loughner is a left fringer nutcase who passed the
> >>>>>> NICS. He shot Giffords because she is a blue dogh Democrat and
> >>>>>> isn't left fringer enough to suit him.
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> >>>>> Loughner was apolitical. He was not a member of the left or of
> >>>>> the right. Don't be like our local sheriff Dupnik who tried to
> >>>>> paint
> >> him
> >>>>> as a Tea Partier.
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> >>>>> He also passed NICS because he had not been examined by mental
> >> health
> >>>>> professionals although he had been expelled from the Pima College
> >>>>> campus for scaring his classmates and other infractions (none
> >>>>> involving a gun). His parents did nothing about the letter they
> >>>>> received from the college and neither did the PCSO or TPD although
> >>>>> both departments were aware of him from some of his activities.
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> >>>> Which brings up an interesting point, RD. Would you back a law
> >>>> which required you to have a mental health examination by an
> >>>> independent
> >>> group
> >>>> before a gun could be sold to you? And to have that exam repeated
> >>>> on some reasonable basis?
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> >>> Nope. I already back laws that allow you to be involuntarily
> >> committed
> >>> for observation *IF* you display outward signs of mental impairment.
> >>> Loughner, Holmes, Cho and Lanza all did.
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> >> And yet, one of the biggest problems is that most do NOT display any
> >> sort of outward sign. Or, if you prefer, you cannot always judge a
> >> book by its cover.
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> >> Loughner, et al, already committed their crimes. How many more folk
> >> out there are going to?
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> > Loughner displayed many signs of mental imbalance BEFORE he went off.
> > As did Cho and Lanza. I assume Holmes did also since he was being
> > seen by a shrink.
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> Loughner did. But, really, RD, how many times do you read "He was such a
> nice young man, never did anyone any harm?" just before they go off?
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> I don't think a mental exam is in any way infringement, and will likely
> catch a lot of these nutcases that slip through "loopholes".
It didn't catch leftwing Usenet crusader Steve Kangas before he set
off with a pistol to
murder Richard Scaife.
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