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From: matttelles@sprynet.com
Kurt Nicklas wrote in
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> On Feb 20, 6:17 pm, Matt wrote:
>> RD Sandman wrote
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> pewell@216.196.121.131:
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>> > Matt wrote in
>> >news:kg377t$8kt$1@dont-email.me:
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>> >> RD Sandman wrote in
>> >>news:XnsA16D4819EC12Ehopewell@216.196.121.131:
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>> >>> Matt wrote in
>> >>>news:XnsA16CBFCC1AAE4matttellessprynetcom@78.46.70.116:
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>> >>>> RD Sandman wrote in
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>> >>>>> "Oglethorpe" wrote in
>> >>>>>news:r_mdncktGtcnirnMnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@mchsi.com:
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>> >>>>>> "Matt" wrote in message
>> >>>>>>news:XnsA16BB13437A9Amatttellessprynetcom@78.46.70.116...
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>> >>>>>> If someone goes to a surrounding state to avoid the laws in
>> >>>>>> their
>> >>>>>>> state of residence, they cannot LEGALLY purchase a firearm
>> >>>>>>> Th
> e
>> >>>>>>> reason a dealer asks for a driver's license photo ID is to
>> >>>>>>> check
>> >> if
>> >>>>>>> the purchaser is a resident of the state. If not, then an F
> FL
>> >> (by
>> >>>>>>> federal law) must be involved from the purchaser's home
>> >>>>>>> state.
>> >> That
>> >>>>>>> FFL will run a background check on the purchaser and ensure
>> >>>>>>> that
>> >> the
>> >>>>>>> transaction meets all applicable laws in the state of
>> >>>>>>> residence.
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>> >>>>>> Right. Like Laughner, right?
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>> >>>>>> ==
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>> >>>>>> You can't even spell his name right. So why should we care
>> >>>>>> what you "think"? Loughner is a left fringer nutcase who
>> >>>>>> passed the NICS. He shot Giffords because she is a blue dogh
>> >>>>>> Democrat and isn't left fringer enough to suit him.
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>> >>>>> Loughner was apolitical. He was not a member of the left or of
>> >>>>> the right. Don't be like our local sheriff Dupnik who tried to
>> >>>>> paint
>> >> him
>> >>>>> as a Tea Partier.
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>> >>>>> He also passed NICS because he had not been examined by mental
>> >> health
>> >>>>> professionals although he had been expelled from the Pima
>> >>>>> College campus for scaring his classmates and other infractions
>> >>>>> (none involving a gun). His parents did nothing about the
>> >>>>> letter they received from the college and neither did the PCSO
>> >>>>> or TPD although both departments were aware of him from some of
>> >>>>> his activities.
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>> >>>> Which brings up an interesting point, RD. Would you back a law
>> >>>> which required you to have a mental health examination by an
>> >>>> independent
>> >>> group
>> >>>> before a gun could be sold to you? And to have that exam
>> >>>> repeated on some reasonable basis?
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>> >>> Nope. I already back laws that allow you to be involuntarily
>> >> committed
>> >>> for observation *IF* you display outward signs of mental
>> >>> impairment. Loughner, Holmes, Cho and Lanza all did.
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>> >> And yet, one of the biggest problems is that most do NOT display
>> >> any sort of outward sign. Or, if you prefer, you cannot always
>> >> judge a book by its cover.
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>> >> Loughner, et al, already committed their crimes. How many more
>> >> folk out there are going to?
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>> > Loughner displayed many signs of mental imbalance BEFORE he went
>> > off. As did Cho and Lanza. I assume Holmes did also since he was
>> > being seen by a shrink.
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>> Loughner did. But, really, RD, how many times do you read "He was
>> such a nice young man, never did anyone any harm?" just before they
>> go off?
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>> I don't think a mental exam is in any way infringement, and will
>> likely catch a lot of these nutcases that slip through "loopholes".
>
> It didn't catch leftwing Usenet crusader Steve Kangas before he set
> off with a pistol to
> murder Richard Scaife.
And the blathering Snickers continues to make a fool of himself.
Matt
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