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   From: TopCop1988@yahoo.com   
      
   On Feb 24, 6:30 pm, Kurt Nicklas  wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   > So just what is so "progressive" about the Left? Seems to me their   
   > ideology is aimed at one thing and one thing alone: increasing the   
   > power of central government at the expense of personal liberty.   
   > Everything they advocate has that as the motivation and greater   
   > government control of our lives as the end.   
   >   
   > So what is so progressive about that? Government control over people's   
   > lives has been around for thousands of years. Escaping that sort of   
   > control is why most of us, or our parents or our grandparents or great-   
   > grandparents came here to get away from.   
   >   
   > Why do "progressives" favor that sort of imperial control over   
   > people's lives rather than letting people have the liberty for which   
   > this country was founded?   
   >   
   > What sort of progress does the Left have in mind for us?   
   >   
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   Know The Enemy - Communism   
   Time for school.   
      
   Today boys and girls, we will discuss communism, and why it remains as   
   the greatest threat to humanity.   
      
   First some history and definitions. Communism (from Latin "communis" -   
   common) is a revolutionary movement that seeks to create a classless   
   and moneyless social order structured upon common ownership of   
   production, the means of production, as well as the profits from that   
   production. The men most associated with communism are Marx, and   
   Lenin.   
      
   Communism significantly influenced the history of the 20th century,   
   which saw intense rivalry between the "socialist world" (socialist   
   states ruled by communist parties) and the "western world" (countries   
   with capitalist economies).   
      
   Communist philosophy holds that pure communism is a specific stage of   
   historical development that inevitably emerges from the development of   
   the productive forces that leads to a superabundance of material   
   wealth. That allows for distribution based on need. "From each   
   according to their ability and to each according to their need".   
      
   Communism has been always associated with the Soviet Union. Since the   
   fall of the USSR, many Americans have erroneously believed that   
   communism fell as well. But today, the communist philosophy remains,   
   draped with the more acceptable and "less Russian" names of   
   "socialism", "liberalism", and now "progressivism".   
      
   It is interesting to note that Marxist theory contends that socialism   
   is just a transitional stage on the road to communism. Leninism adds   
   the notion of a vanguard party to lead the proletarian revolution and   
   to secure all political power after the revolution for the working   
   class. This usually means elimination of firearms in the hands of the   
   public, confiscation of wealth, nationalization of industry, and   
   indoctrination of the young...as well as executing any resistance. My   
   family and I lived through this in Cuba.   
      
   If one examines any country that has been communist...or pseudo-   
   communist, one will eventually see a failed state. The USSR failed, as   
   has every other communist state. The current economic debacles in   
   Europe are due to socialist (pseudo-communist) economic policies.   
      
   The reason why communism does not work are as follows.   
      
   1). Create a classless social order. That is not possible because even   
   though it may sound harsh, we are not all equal. Some people are   
   smarter than others. Some people are stronger than others. And some   
   people are more clever than others. Those that are will naturally   
   prosper more than the less prepared. As well, some people have a   
   better work ethic than others.   
      
      
   What communism wants to do is to force "those who can" to carry "those   
   who won't". Eventually "those who can" either get tired of being   
   enslaved due to their talent and stop working, or simply leave to a   
   non-communist region where they can profit from their abilities.   
      
      
   2). Create a moneyless social order. Money is what drives everything.   
   It has been that way from the age of Mesopotamia and is that way   
   today. It is why countries go to war (and you thought it was for   
   "freedom" I will bet), it is why people get up in the morning and go   
   to school or work. The hope for a better life and the creation of   
   wealth is what drives a modern and prosperous society. Communism kills   
   that hope by stifling creativity and drive so that the lazy will not   
   feel overshadowed by the capable.   
      
      
   3). Common ownership of production, the means of production, as well   
   as the profits from that production. They did that in Cuba. They made   
   communist janitors in charge of state Agriculture. They made communist   
   "academics" in charge of the banks. And they made communist housewives   
   that were good friends with some general's wife, in charge of   
   education.   
      
   The ignorant, the incapable, the untrained and the unskilled cannot   
   succeed at anything, in spite of how much Marx, Castro, or any other   
   communist leader wants them to.   
      
   Communism festered in Cuba and erupted into a revolution that was   
   eventually successful. But communism is not always brought to power as   
   a result of a violent Lenin-esque revolution. It is as often brought   
   to power in a cancerous Marxist spread that may take several   
   generations to be realized.   
      
   http://www.amazon.com/Know-Your-Enemy-Author-Listed/dp/B000JFRODW   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)