XPost: alt.society.liberalism, talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism   
   From: someone@somewhere.invalid   
      
   On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:37:11 -0800, Oglethorpe wrote:   
      
   >   
   > "Don Kresch"  wrote in message   
   > news:9nb2j8p2gtl1mffv68rlh1d9sfipglohfu@4ax.com...   
   >> On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 08:45:48 -0500, MarkA    
   >> scrawled in blood:   
   >>   
   >>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:36:18 -0800, JohnJohnsn wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Feb 24, 6:30 pm, Kurt Nicklas  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So just what is so "progressive" about the Left? Seems to me their   
   >>>>> ideology is aimed at one thing and one thing alone: increasing the   
   >>>>> power   
   >>>>> of central government at the expense of personal liberty. Everything   
   >>>>> they advocate has that as the motivation and greater government   
   >>>>> control of our lives as the end.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So what is so progressive about that? Government control over   
   >>>>> people's lives has been around for thousands of years. Escaping that   
   >>>>> sort of control is why most of us, or our parents or our grandparents   
   >>>>> or great- grandparents came here to get away from.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Why do "progressives" favor that sort of imperial control over   
   >>>>> people's lives rather than letting people have the liberty for which   
   >>>>> this country   
   >>>>> was founded?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> What sort of progress does the Left have in mind for us?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> Know The Enemy - Communism   
   >>>> Time for school.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Today boys and girls, we will discuss communism, and why it remains as   
   >>>> the   
   >>>> greatest threat to humanity.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>Communism has been tried.  It failed.  It is no longer a viable   
   >>>political/economic system.  It is no longer the greatest threat to   
   >>>anyone. In America, capitalism is a much bigger threat.   
   >>   
   >> We don't have capitalism. Never have.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>Capitalism is in the process of failing,   
   >>   
   >> Prove it. Prove that we have capitalism and that it is failing.   
   >>   
   >> Make sure that when you do, you don't confuse capitalism with   
   >> mercantilism, cronyism, interventionism, fascism, welfare-warefare state   
   >> socialism, and other such.   
   >>   
   >> Oh, I know you will anyway; it's just fun to point that out in the first   
   >> place just so that you know that I know that you'll fail.   
   >>   
   >>   
   > We have capitalism. We'd have more and better were it not for government   
   > interference.   
      
   Spoken like a true plutocrat.   
      
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   MarkA   
      
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